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Name: UberOwnage
Date: August 18, 2005 at 22:04:42 Pacific
OS: WindowXp Home
CPU/Ram: 1 GIG Kingston PC2700
Comment:

Hey. I got a question about Overclocking my Celeron 2.4GHz CPU. I overclocked it one time to 2.5 GHz rebooted my computer and it worked fine. I tried 2.6 GHz (I use ClockGen) And rebooted and when i logged into windows the sound was choppy and some of my programs werent responding very well. I was too afraid to overclock it more to see what happened so i put it down to 2.54 GHz and it seemed stable.
I knew overclocking was a risk without using a stability test so i just increased it about 4%. So why is this happening? Is it my ram, because i got ddr pc2700.
Somebody help plz

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Response Number 1
Name: UberOwnage
Date: August 18, 2005 at 22:16:07 Pacific
Reply:

And also...I am having random reboots after trying to access a file from WMP.
(This happened even before I Overclocked)

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Response Number 2
Name: Cobra_R
Date: August 18, 2005 at 22:16:26 Pacific
Reply:

You check your cpu and system temps when you reached 2.6ghz?

If your cpu or system is taking on a lot of heat then that is your problem. If your cpu is reaching temps up to 130 F then the cooling is the main issue.

Are you overclocking the cpu on a stock HSF? If you are then that maybe your problem.

Some advise if you are going to overclock go out and get a HSF made to handle overclocking. And add some case fans if you don't already have some they also help reduce heat built up.


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Response Number 3
Name: UberOwnage
Date: August 18, 2005 at 22:19:30 Pacific
Reply:

You know that's exactly what I though...I guess I'll just buy a descent Heatsink then and try again...
But I dont know a good program that detects CPU Temperature

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Response Number 4
Name: UberOwnage
Date: August 18, 2005 at 22:20:18 Pacific
Reply:

And no It's not even a heatsink i am currently using..
Just a crappy 5 year old fan that probably has alot of dust in it

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Response Number 5
Name: Cobra_R
Date: August 18, 2005 at 22:35:02 Pacific
Reply:

Well then I would say you just figured out your own problem it's your colling on your cpu.

go here and download this

(http://www.almico.com/speedfan.php)

it's free.

It detects: cpu temperature.


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Response Number 6
Name: UberOwnage
Date: August 18, 2005 at 22:36:08 Pacific
Reply:

yay thanks man

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Response Number 7
Name: Cobra_R
Date: August 18, 2005 at 22:38:25 Pacific
Reply:

No problem, hope it works for you.


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Response Number 8
Name: UberOwnage
Date: August 18, 2005 at 22:40:09 Pacific
Reply:

Erm...this is a bit surprising.

It says temp 1 is 43C
But temp 2 says 64C

For my issue I assume "temp 2" is my CPU?

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Response Number 9
Name: Cobra_R
Date: August 18, 2005 at 22:50:33 Pacific
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Correct because your cpu is producing the most heat out of any hardware you have in your system

You system cpu is running 147.2 F

Yeah this is why you can't overclock you pc, i'm shocked you are even running stable at 2.4 without running into major problems.

This could be why some apps are causing you pc to reboot, because your processors temp is going higher when the cpu has to work harder.

Yeah man it's time to get a good HSF asap.


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Response Number 10
Name: UberOwnage
Date: August 18, 2005 at 22:53:24 Pacific
Reply:

Seems critical...Should I dock my CPU Down a bit or is it not nescessary right now. Because I can possibly get a HSF tomorrow.

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Response Number 11
Name: Cobra_R
Date: August 18, 2005 at 22:55:38 Pacific
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Yeah i would prob shut it down and just go out and get a HSF tomm and post the new results of your temp here tomm. If you don't really need to be on your pc right now then I would advise you to just shut it down for tonight.



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Response Number 12
Name: UberOwnage
Date: August 18, 2005 at 22:57:22 Pacific
Reply:

Alright man... thanks alot.

What would you recommend..Because I don't really know how much a descent HSF costs and i'm not going to order one online...

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Response Number 13
Name: UberOwnage
Date: August 18, 2005 at 22:58:19 Pacific
Reply:

And Its actually 2.54 not 2.4

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Response Number 14
Name: Cobra_R
Date: August 18, 2005 at 22:59:49 Pacific
Reply:

Oh BTW the first temp was your system Temp just so you know, which is running avg with now case fans installed.

Go out and get at least one case fan and place it in the back of your case and a nice HSF tomm.

By doing this you will see a big diff in cooling.


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Response Number 15
Name: Cobra_R
Date: August 18, 2005 at 23:02:49 Pacific
Reply:

You can go to staples, Circuit City Best Buy and pick up a decent Antec HSF for 20 to 25 bucks and a 80mm case fan for 10 bucks.

Get an HSF fan that will not only support yours but even greater ghz speeds that way you will have room to breath when you overclock. it should say what types of processors and speeds it supports on the back of the package.


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Response Number 16
Name: UberOwnage
Date: August 18, 2005 at 23:03:39 Pacific
Reply:

I also got another question if you don't mind...

Even if the CPU and everything else is at descen Temp...Can there still be errors and/or crashes? and if so...what kind because i wanna take note

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Response Number 17
Name: UberOwnage
Date: August 18, 2005 at 23:07:39 Pacific
Reply:

And I also wanted to do a torture test but I guess i already know what to do before i test my cpu any more...

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Response Number 18
Name: Cobra_R
Date: August 18, 2005 at 23:09:36 Pacific
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Yeah but if you do get crashes after that it's normaly due to software or hardware conflict and not because of the temps in your pc.

If you get anymore crashes from programs, windows has this nice tool in the control panel in Windows 2000 and Windows XP called admin tools. in there go to event viewer and if you and click on the apps and system options on the left hand side and if you see any red X's click detailed and it will normally tell you what is causing the problem. if it doesn't and all you see is a string of text copy it go to google and paste it in the search and you will prob see a list of diff links telling you what it is and how you can fix the problem.


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Response Number 19
Name: UberOwnage
Date: August 18, 2005 at 23:11:34 Pacific
Reply:

Hah oh s--- its at 70C

Alright I'm shutting down...

G'nite I'll post tomorrow after i get my
stuff...

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Response Number 20
Name: Cobra_R
Date: August 18, 2005 at 23:18:35 Pacific
Reply:

Well the torture test will be to monitor the cpu temp while you are overlocking, if your system goes past say 130 F then you know what the max you should be overclocking your system at.

I wouldn't advise you going past or 2.8ghz unless you are going to go out there and buy a rock solid HSF that will cost you a good 70+ dollars.

run your programs that you did have problems with first and see if they work before you overclock your system, if they do then you know why they crashed, then overclock it again and see if those programs are stable do it in small about don't jump from say 50 to 150mhz each time you overclock you will know when you pc reached it's breaking point when you pc becomes very unstable.

plus i would raise your vcore anything higher then 5v max of what it was set on the stock setting that too could generate a lot of heat from your cpu.

If you are going to overclock you cpu to 2.8 ghz then the max i would set your vcore is 4v.



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Response Number 21
Name: lazyman
Date: August 19, 2005 at 06:45:09 Pacific
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Response 20

What are you talking about regarding 5 and 4 volt vcore for current Intel chips????


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Response Number 22
Name: jam
Date: August 19, 2005 at 11:21:22 Pacific
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"I wouldn't advise you going past or 2.8ghz unless you are going to go out there and buy a rock solid HSF that will cost you a good 70+ dollars"

That is a ridiculous statement. There are plenty of excellent HSF available for about $15. Besides, no matter how high you overclock a Celeron, it's still only a Celeron...lol

Have a look at the CoolerMaster X Dream III...newegg sells em for $10 + shipping:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835103161

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Response Number 23
Name: UberOwnage
Date: August 19, 2005 at 11:25:08 Pacific
Reply:

Meh yeah its just a celeron..thats why im not that concerned.
Ill just do what i can to fix it..

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Response Number 24
Name: Cobra_R
Date: August 19, 2005 at 17:18:58 Pacific
Reply:

That's not a ridiculous statement. I don't care if it's a Celeron or not, unless you don't care .But if you want to overclock and do care then wouldn't it be common sense not to push it and end up overheating something.


talking about the setting.


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Response Number 25
Name: jam
Date: August 19, 2005 at 17:49:19 Pacific
Reply:

I'm talking about your claim that you have to spend $70+ for a HSF to be able to overclock....that IS ridiculous!

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Response Number 26
Name: Cobra_R
Date: August 19, 2005 at 21:18:00 Pacific
Reply:

you do at a retail store.Go to best buy and see how much they want for a nice heat sink and fan. Newegg was selling the same Antec highend HSF for 40 bucks, best buy wanted 65 for it and it was the same exact HSF. That's what we were talking about since he was going to get it at a retail store.


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