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can i swap p2 450 for p4 processor?

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Name: computers-are-cool (by Luke)
Date: November 20, 2003 at 01:36:31 Pacific
OS: WIN XP pro
CPU/Ram: P2 450 Mhz
Comment:

i want to upgrade my processor, i have a p2 450 an want something heeps faster, can anyone tell me if i can simply remove and replace my processor without changing the motherboard!!! it is a Board: i440BX-ITE8671
Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 4.51 PG 12/17/98
any info would be tops!
Thanks.



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Response Number 1
Name: FaBzZz
Date: November 20, 2003 at 02:37:28 Pacific
Reply:

you cant just slap in a new processor. firstly u need a m/b that has a fsb clock that can run a p4 and a m/b with a socket 478 that the p4 can fit into


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Response Number 2
Name: Adam
Date: November 20, 2003 at 03:44:51 Pacific
Reply:

You should be able to get a Skt370 Celeron 1000 with a Coppermine core running in it, you may be able to use the later Tualatin core'd Celerons, but that involves more work, and there is no guarantee that it will work.


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Response Number 3
Name: mattg144
Date: November 20, 2003 at 04:46:51 Pacific
Reply:

yes you can go ahead and waste they money on a proessor that wont even fit in the slot. dont be so damn cheap. spend an extra $80 and get a p4 mobo.


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Response Number 4
Name: real_cool
Date: November 20, 2003 at 07:52:19 Pacific
Reply:

Mostly a slot 1 PII 450. You'd better get a new P4 board. It costs as low as $40 for the SIS645 DX, Asus, MSI offer them in very low cost.

P4 Celeron costs only $60. Or, go with AMD setup. You would end up with a much better system.


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Response Number 5
Name: Tbird4point6LX97
Date: November 20, 2003 at 07:55:52 Pacific
Reply:

are you serious?
do some research....
it sounds reasonable common sense that you couldn't do what you want...


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Response Number 6
Name: XxxFrancisxxxUSA
Date: November 20, 2003 at 08:15:53 Pacific
Reply:

If you are tight no cash, get an Athlon and Athlon motherboard!

Isaw a 1600XP WITH motherboard for $89 at computer fair. Online it is gonna be cheaper!

For $74.13 you can get an ATHLON 2000XP with motherboard!!!! And add $40 for 256 meg ram, what more do you need? Seriously, you should take your motherboard, ram and cpu, bundle it together on ebay, get some cash for it, spend some more and upgrade your machine. That's what I do. Upgrade means bit by bit, and it is not expensive if you do it in stages!


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Response Number 7
Name: XxxFrancisxxxUSA
Date: November 20, 2003 at 08:16:31 Pacific
Reply:

Source, www.pricewatch.com


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Response Number 8
Name: x86
Date: November 20, 2003 at 10:49:01 Pacific
Reply:

I appreciate you want to upgrade, firstly ascertain wether or not with a BIOS upgrade supports a 133fsb as well as 66 and 100fsb. You should be able to pickup a 800fsb Slot1 PIII second-user on EBAY, or alternatively a Slot1 to 370 Slocket, you need one with support for 133fsb and auto settings, therefore it may be possible to go to a 1gig celeron.

Though truthfully you would be able to buy a second-user AMD mobo and Athlon CPU as cheap, good luck........


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Response Number 9
Name: spliff
Date: November 20, 2003 at 17:21:54 Pacific
Reply:

if u have a slot one i know for certain u can get a 1.2 ghz processor and maybe a 1.4 ghz.

go to the powerleap web site and take a look


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Response Number 10
Name: SkipCox
Date: November 20, 2003 at 22:27:05 Pacific
Reply:

Hell, you can buy a 2 Gig Celeron and motherboard for less than a hundred bucks.


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Response Number 11
Name: sonnysandiego
Date: November 21, 2003 at 00:26:49 Pacific
Reply:

no, you can't do what you asked.


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Response Number 12
Name: Free Weasel
Date: November 21, 2003 at 06:06:42 Pacific
Reply:

You maybe able to go up to a coppermine as is written above and they go up to 1,1GHz, either Pentium3 and Celeron.

You need:
- A bios update that will detect that cpu!
- Your board has to support 1,5 to 1,75V VCore voltage for the cpu. (see *) below)
- an slot1 to socket370 adaptercard. There are different ones who support only FCPGA like my MSI 6905 Master Vers. 2.3 but lately I saw one that also supported Tualatin core up to 1,4GHz at www.powerleap.com

Problem:
I know it works on my Asus P2B board (also slot1 with 440bx chip) but you can't be sure it will work on your board!


*)
There is a way around the VCore problem I used myself because you can get a special adaptercard where you can fix the VCore to 1,8V that the board should supply. If you get a cpu that works at 1,7 or 1,75V VCore that's only slightly higher and will work!


BTW:
I decided for a 733MHz Celeron and overclocked it. Run fine with up to 1232MHz but I think I was a bit lucky at that!


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Response Number 13
Name: bhtooefr
Date: November 23, 2003 at 08:05:51 Pacific
Reply:

800fsb P3? Damn, that's a good overclock - 8x if you started at 100fsb ;-)!

My suggestion? Pentium M. Both the RadiSys LS855 board and 1.3GHz CPU ain't cheap, but the Pentium M can compete with P4s 1GHz faster than it, and it's a LOT cooler and takes less power


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Response Number 14
Name: andy
Date: November 25, 2003 at 10:38:19 Pacific
Reply:

No u canot it is like trying to give a ca a blood transfusion from a buldog it simmpl9y wont work or fit for that matter


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