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Can I Overclock My Video RAM, DDR DRAM, AMD64

April 20, 2011 at 01:02:34
Specs: Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, AMD64 Athlon 3200+/4096MB DDR

Ive recently done a lot of upgrades to my Emachines T6212 pc, and Im trying to get the most out of it and seeing if I can overclock any memory or this processor. The T6212 came with a 2.0GHz AMD64 Athlon 3200+ with 512KB/s L2 cache, 512MBs of Dual Channel DDR SDRAM (upgradeable to 4096MB {1024MB on each of the 4 memory bays}), a microATX form factor (I THINK?) MS-7093 motherboard with integrated ATI Radeon Xpress 200 (RS480) chipset on the northbridge, and SB400 (AC97') Audio on the southbridge. The motherboard offers an open PCI-e slot, and a couple open PCI slots. I also have a Sound Blaster Audigy MP3+ (Audigy Platinum) Sound Card and gameport. FIRST on the list of upgrades was 2048MB of Centons PC3200 400MHz (or 200MHz ea.) Dual Channel DDR RAM (which read under CPUIDs CPU-Zs SPD TAB says is installed in Slot#1 and #3 {and I thought was in slot #3 and #4; if that matters at all}, max bandwidth reads 200MHz, JEDIC #1: 133MHz - 2-2-2-6, JEDIC #2: 166MHz - 2.5-3-3-7, JEDIC #3: 200MHz - 3-3-3-8), and 2048MB of Patriots PC3200 400 MHz (or 200MHz ea.) Dual Channel DDR RAM (which read under CPUIDs CPU-Zs SPD TAB says is installed in Slot#2 and #4 {and I thought was in slot #1 and #2; if that matters at all}, max bandwidth reads 200MHz, JEDIC #1: 166MHz - 2.5-3-3-7, JEDIC #2: 200MHz - 3-4-4-8) Why I got two different manufactured sets of RAM?... Impatience. QUESTION HERE IS: Does this hinder my ram to operate at 166MHz? Is it because the 200MHz timings are different, and its choosing the JEDIC #1 timing of one set and JEDIC #2 timing of the other set? Under the CPU-Zs MEMORY TAB, its registering as 4096MB of Dual Channeled DDR, but the DRAM Freq. is 165.8MHz - FSB:DRAM : CPU/12 - 2.5-3-3-7 commanded at 2T and the DRAM idle timer is 16clocks. It should read 195-199MHz shouldnt it? Also I noticed in my BIOS (Which is Phoenixs AWARD 6.00 PG {No updates from MSIs live update, and Emachines i used and made a bootable BIOS flash that worked, but did absolutlely nothing) there is an option to change the memorys latency from 2.5 to 3, but theres no other timing options that i remembered. Should I try this? I dont want to mess up my memory. Or do I have to get the same manufactured, and if so which one should I match? NEXT down the list is the video card I ugraded to: A Galaxy NVidia powered GeForce GT430 HDMI+DVI+VGA 1024 MB DDR3 video card installed on the PCI-e 16 slot. QUESTION HERE IS: My 512KB/sec L2 Cached 3200+ AMD64 and motherboard being able to process the video cards DDR3 memory properly? And how so? Here is the specs on my video card that I found: 700/1400MHz GPU Core Clock, 1.8GHz memory clock, 128-bit interface, 28.8GB/sec memory transfer rate, 96 pixels per clock, directx11/shader model 5, (and judging by the DDR3 classification Im guessing is PCI-e 3?) On CPU-Z its current clocks r at 50MHz Core, 101MHz Shaders, 135MHz Memory. 2D Desktop clocks are at 405MHz Core, 810MHz Shaders, 324MHz Memory. 3D Apps Clocks r at 700MHz Core, 1400MHz Shaders, 800MHz Memory. So it seems as though the core overclocks the core speed of 700MHz, dont know what it means for the memory clock (and shaders clock) though and what i can do to overclock the memory clock, but when running Street Fighter 4s Benchmark on windows 7/64 bit OS at 1920x1280 60Hz and Anti-Aliasing disabled (HD) set at a fixed frame rate and highest quality everything, the benchmarks reading 138/1024 of the video memory, Around 35 FPS on usual, 39.34 FPS as average. I think this should be much higher. Anyway I tested it on CPU-Zs GRAPHICS TAB witht he perf level at current, and it does read 700/1400/800, so its 3d apps clocks are running at its potential set... Can I overclocks any of the settings? More video card questions later.... ON TO THE NEXT ONE: The next upgarde was obvious: Windows 7 Professional 64-bit OS clean instal which I got online for an incredible $70 download! After Installed started to freeze on windows updates, crashed and I couldnt get a picture on screen. After paying the tech $60 to run diagnostics, and talking with him for 30min, and then deciding i knew what it was, taking it home and upgrading more, and paying $60 for him to talk to me (He said u might as well keep it here so I can run the tests u payed for) but too impatient I knew the problem after talking with him. I had to upgrade power supply, he suggested The Ultra LSP450 Pro, took it home swapped the power supply and its been smooth since. The only other problem I had with Win7 is it didnt support my Creative Audigy Gameport. It shows up in the device manager but doesnt have a driver (prob because creative wont make one), the other wierd problem is I have no creative applications anymore and their sound recorder was bomb. But I found another program to record to mp3 format up to 320 directly (Not through Creative though), my mixer volume settings are funkdified with the interchange of HD audio and sound card audio, but I got the hang of it I think.
So now Ill tell you about performance. On the SYSTEM PAGE of the control panels system and security options. It registers 4.00GB of RAM, but (3.12 Usable) why is this? Because the video card is using 1024MB of the systems memory? But why if it has its own 1024MB? My Windows Experience Index Rating is 3.9 Currently...3.9-5.2-5.9-5.4-5.3. As far as extensive performance... Street Fighter 4 is very graphics extensive. I can play so many people online without any slowing down, but some are still slow because of internet connection possibly. I still notice a few skips or lag once in a while. If I run windows media player while playing it slows down, with my webcam cam on and broadcasting, i cant play at all. In my opinion with 4GB of ram this shouldnt be happening, should it? SO ON TO OVERCLOCKING AND OPTIMIZING. As far as the BIOS goes I cant find a true update (especially one made for a 64-bit windows OS) The one running is for windowsxp. I wonder if this hinders me performance...? The options that I do see in the BIOS that seems beneficial Ill talk about next: Under BIOS: theres an option for OS Select for DRAM>64MB its set at NON-OS and says to set to OS only if the OS system has more than 64MB of memory... Does this mean if the OS is more than 64-bit? or if I have more than 64mb of memory? or if I have 64MB of video? Is there even a 128-bit OS? Why do I get this option? Under DRAM CONFIGURATION: UMA Frame buffer size is set at its highest, 128MB... shall I keep it the same? AGP Aperture Size was set at 64MB. After playing with it and finding no big difference I left it at 128MB, but the option for up to 2gb i think is there... From what I heard the AGP accounts for how much memory on system the video card can have access at the most on its agp line or (special memory bus type thing...?) And that the more video memory you have, or in general, the less the aperture needs to be, Ive heard that you shouldnt use more than half of what you have on system, and that by common rule you should use a quarter of you you have on system, which for me would be 1GB, But Ive also heard that 256MB Is Ideal if your video memory and system memory can hack it, which obviously mine can because 256MB is also only a quarter of my video cards memory! So personal recommendations are appreciated here. OTHER OPTIONS: Video RAM Cacheable : was disabled, but I enabled it most recently after it was recommended in an overclocking post I saw yesterday. OTHER OPTIONS: Autodetect PCI CLK: Is disabled, Spread Spectrum: enabled (I think, Ill look again and post after). What is this option? UNDER PNP/PCI CONFIG: PCI LATENCY (CLK) : 64, PCI EXPRESS MAX PAYLOAD SIZE: 4096... Should any other options be changed to optimize bios settings??? Is my old ATI Radeon Express 200 still drawing and cacheing system memory? What options are there to disable it in the BIOS? Other BIOS questions will be posted in my next post... As far As Overclocking the video card BIOS I have two programs I downloaded: NiBitor.v6.02 (VIDEO CARD BIOS EDITOR) and nvFlash.v5.095 (VIDEO CARD BIOS FLASHER), but Im not sure as to what to overclock, as said before the GPUs Core clock seems to be optimal at its 700MHz in 3D apps, but what does the shader 1400MHz and memory clock at 800MHz mean when the video card specs read 700MHz/1400MHz core and 1.8GHz memory clock spec mean? does this mean I can possibly overclock the 800MHz Memory clock to 1.8GHz (this doesnt even make sense to me how the spec could even be 1.8GHz, seems high). Also this 128-bit interface spec what does this mean? Does this spec have anything to do with the aperture setting in the BIOS, or does this spec have something to do with how fast the memory is processed through its own video memory? HELP from ANYBODY AND EVERYBODY who has some info to share and enlighten me with will be appreciated greatly. Thanx

See More: Can I Overclock My Video RAM, DDR DRAM, AMD64

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#1
April 20, 2011 at 07:35:24

Wow, we normally complain about not getting enough info, you supplied way too much. You should have included links to your system specs & motherboard though. Here they are:

http://emachines.com/products/produ...

http://www.ascendtech.us/itemdesc.a...

It's very unlikely that your eMachines is overclockable thru the BIOS & you should NOT attempt to replace the eMachines BIOS with an MSI BIOS. You can try the software overclocking approach but the results will be less than satisfactory. If you really want to overclock the CPU & get the RAM to run at the proper speed, you're going to have to replace the motherboard with something decent. But considering the age of your components (S939 w/DDR1 memory), it's probably not worth throwing any more money at it, you've already spent way too much.

As an experiment, try removing 2 sticks of RAM & see what speed the remaining 2 sticks run at. Some older A64 systems automatically underclock the RAM when 4 sticks are installed. This can usually be overcome by changing the memory settings in the BIOS, but you need a BIOS that supports such changes.

The GT 430 is a low end, entry level card more suited for general purpose / HTPC than gaming. Don't worry about it being bottlenecked. You should be able to overclock it, but you can't make up for the fact that it only has 96 stream processors.

http://www.guru3d.com/article/gefor...


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#2
April 20, 2011 at 09:02:43

OEM computers do not handle overclocking well, if at all.
Overclocking produces more stress on the power supply and more heat. OEM computers have little tolerance for either. eMachines are known for having weak power supplies. The manufacturers are well aware of this and prevent overclocking in the BIOS. This protects you from failures and them from the resulting warranty claims.

Overclocking is best done with home-built systems where you can control the specifications and quality of the components used.


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#3
April 20, 2011 at 16:37:18

Well I did do something interesting that had an effect, positive and negative. After doing some research I changed In the BIOS in the INTERNAL VIDEO MODE: from UMA to DISABLED (the purpose being that I think this may be the option for the integrated ATI Radeon XPress 200 chipset). Am I correct with this? also changed the AGP aperture size to 256MB. There is an option to change the DRAM config from Latency 2.5-3 theres also the speed and its at 200MHz and cant be changed. I havent changed it yet, but I set the option for manual to be able to change it. Other things I found that might be of value and I could use some help with it setting to optimal level is these options: under INTERNAL VIDEO MODE: DISABLED (which I explained above I changed to from UMA) is GFX Clock Mode: SYNC with option for ASYNC, under ASync GFX CLOCK: 200MHz with option to go as high as 350MHz, ASync GFX CLOCK SOURCE: 14.318MHz OSC with the option to change to 100MHz PCIe.... Should I change this? and then theres MCLK Spread Spectrum: disabled, dual mode interleaving: disabled, Dynamic CKE: enabled, MEMORY HOLE: disabled, SYSTEM BIOS CACHEABLE: disabled. So after making the 3 changes, booted up, used CPUIDs CPUZ and now under the MEMORY TAB, its reading 199MHz, CPU/10, 2.5-4-2-8.... ?, ran SF4s benchmark and it read 145/1024MB video ram being used, FPS: around 45 AV:43.7. So something was better, but still room for improvement.... this was with the FPS setting to fixed, as soon as i changed to variable FPS SF4 crashed. tried running windows experience assessment again, it too crashed at the very end, then explorer crashed.... so went back into the BIOS and changed back the INTERNAL VIDEO MODE: from disabled back to UMA. Haven't ran SF4 yet again but in CPUIDs CPUZ - its reading the same as above... still this 2.5-4-2-8 isnt a true clock time of my ram but its still reading 199MHz... im wondering if i should try and return this ram and swap it out for the same manufacturer... Im thinking I should go with the Centon, hopefully theyll let me without the packaging... =) I also talked with a guy at compusa on the phone about how in the system tab in windows its sayin 4.00GB (3.12 usable), and he said it shouldnt be doing that if my video card has its own GB of ram... He also said that the DDR3 ram in the video card wont affect the DDR composition of my motherboard, and that it plays no part... Still soooo confused.... HELP

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#4
April 20, 2011 at 17:42:35

MickLiq thanx for that article, helps show me what I should be lookin for FPS wise... My described gameplay matches that of what is described in the article being between 30-40FPS, I want 50, can I get 50..... You said going the software route to overclocking the video card clocks wouldnt be pleasing, but the part of this article says otherwise...... I guess though looking at these comparisons, my card does suck. I thought I got a decent card. Still this card has immaculate picture quality throughout, and like the reviewer said in the article all the picture quality settings are at highest like mine, as well in the nvidia control panel u can adjust for quality vs. performance, mines at quality. its the FPS bein average that kills it. I guess I should have been paying attention more to the stream processing, and the GDDR5, capability factors more when shopping. Still I got an impressive HQ Entry level HD Card that can be overclocked effectively.... BUT FIRST I HAVE OTHER BOUNDARIES OF A MILLION OPTIONS.... SO everybody help with more suggestions there, so I can move on.... to overclocking...

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#5
April 20, 2011 at 18:10:23

"You said going the software route to overclocking the video card clocks wouldnt be pleasing"

No, I did NOT say that. I said overclocking the CPU with software will be less than satisfactory. Translation = waste of time. To be able to overclock your CPU, you need complete control of the CPU mutiplier, CPU frequency, CPU voltage, HT multiplier, PCIe frequency, PCI frequency, RAM frequency, RAM timings, RAM voltage, Spread Spectrum, Cool'n'Quiet, etc. You can't do that with overclocking software.

Video card overclocking is a completely separate issue. You MUST use software to overclock. But as I stated, your have an entry level card that's better suited for a home theater system. Yes, I know you can play some games with it, but there were much better choices in the same price range that really ARE gaming cards.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...

http://www.hwcompare.com/7148/gefor...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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#6
April 20, 2011 at 21:14:43

Also note that your spec's list:
"One PCI Express �16 slot (supports PCI Express Bus specification v1.0a compliant)"
You have a PCIe 16x slot that is only 1.0a version, not the newer 2.0 version so your video slot will limit what you can get out of the better video cards. You should get more out of a gaming card, but will eventually bottle neck there so don't get carried away here and save for a new system (unless you plan on moving the card to your next machine). If you apply nearly as much research as you have here to building a new custom rig, you can have a first rate gaming machine as soon as you can afford it.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#7
April 20, 2011 at 23:09:22

Yes ur right sorry mickliq. And yes I see that my video card has been belittled... The more and more I post here and crave 3d graphics the more and more this pc becomes like a car to me ready to get beasted up.... on another note. I matched the same centon ram today and changed the latency clock in the bios from 2.5-3.... Now in CPUID CPUZ (which is a great program by the way) its reading 199MHz, CPU/10, 3-4-2-8.... WTS?! The spec is 3-3-3-8... So to be more precise about the benchmark and gameplay... In SF4 with all highest quality AA off 1980x1280@60Hz with the FIXED FPS OPTION, gameplay and the game video is at 60fps +-3 AV. at all time... but when in VARIABLE FPS OPTION, gameplay averages about 38FPS, and game video at about 30FPS. Naturally im thinking this is why the option is present for better sync with video during the game. 60fps is fast and very playable. (Theres the option to view FPS meter during gameplay). The earlier posts was talking about the SF4 benchmark which I never let go to the end until today. The score is 6256, AV. FPS:34, memory is reading: 3198MB (?!), video memory: 1024MB, RANK:D... the benchmark doesnt rely on the FPS FIXED or VARIABLE OPTION though, makes no difference.... And still in my SYSTEM TAB of my control panel in Windows 7 64, its reading installed memory: 4.00 GB (3.12 GB usable).... what the s---? I was over at my friends house today and looked at his laptop hes got windows 7 64 as well and it says 4.00 GB (3.8 GB Usable)... whats really going on... Also took a look in the PERFORMANCE TAB in ADVANCED SYSTEM SETTINGS at the virtual paging memory and my system had it autoed at 3198, changed it to 4096-4096... but still.... this 3.12 GB usable crap.... Can anyone elaborate on this situation... Next post tonight will be my BIOS pics... Thanks for the help guys...Even before you said anything FINGERS, I was looking at motherboards and processors last night... Dont know if Im ready to supercharge the car (this mini monster pc LOL), ebay my memory, and get 16gb flowin in a new 3.6GHz yet. Sounds good though. But with some more help from you guys ill get it turboed with a lil boost....

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April 21, 2011 at 00:30:05

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April 21, 2011 at 03:55:28


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CPUIDs CPUZ REPORT (some of it)

Processors Information
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Processor 1 ID = 0
Number of cores 1 (max 1)
Number of threads 1 (max 1)
Name AMD Athlon 64 3200+
Codename Winchester
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
Package Socket 939
CPUID F.F.0
Extended CPUID F.1F
Brand ID 4
Core Stepping DH8-D0
Technology 90 nm
Core Speed 1989.8 MHz
Multiplier x FSB 10.0 x 199.0 MHz
HT Link speed 795.9 MHz
Stock frequency 2000 MHz
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L1 Data cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
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FID/VID Control yes
Max FID 10.0x
Max VID 1.450 V

K8 Thermal sensor yes
K8 Revision ID 3.1
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 0
Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 1
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Attached device PCI device at bus 0, device 24, function 3


Thread dumps
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CPU Thread 0
APIC ID 0
Topology Processor ID 0, Core ID 0, Thread ID 0
Type 02002001h
Max CPUID level 00000001h
Max CPUID ext. level 80000018h
Cache descriptor Level 1, I, 64 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 1, D, 64 KB, 1 thread(s)
Cache descriptor Level 2, U, 512 KB, 1 thread(s)

Chipset
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Northbridge ATI Xpress 200 (RS480) rev. 00
Southbridge ATI SB400 rev. 00
Graphic Interface PCI-Express
PCI-E Link Width x8
PCI-E Max Link Width x16
Memory Type DDR
Memory Size 4096 MBytes
Channels Dual
Memory Frequency 199.0 MHz (CPU/10)
CAS# latency (CL) 3.0
RAS# to CAS# delay (tRCD) 4
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 2
Cycle Time (tRAS) 8
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 12
DRAM Idle Timer 16
Command Rate (CR) 2T

Memory SPD
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DIMM # 1
SMBus address 0x50
Memory type DDR
Manufacturer (ID) Centon (7F7F7F1900000000)
Size 1024 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3200 (200 MHz)
Part number JIYG18TVB 1GB
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Registered no
Buffered no
Nominal Voltage 2.50 Volts
EPP yes (0 profiles)
XMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 2.0-2-2-6-n.a. @ 133 MHz
JEDEC #2 2.5-3-3-7-n.a. @ 166 MHz
JEDEC #3 3.0-3-3-8-n.a. @ 200 MHz

DIMM # 2
SMBus address 0x51
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Manufacturer (ID) Centon (7F7F7F1900000000)
Size 1024 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3200 (200 MHz)
Part number JIYG18TVB 1GB
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Correction None
Registered no
Buffered no
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EPP yes (0 profiles)
XMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 2.0-2-2-6-n.a. @ 133 MHz
JEDEC #2 2.5-3-3-7-n.a. @ 166 MHz
JEDEC #3 3.0-3-3-8-n.a. @ 200 MHz

DIMM # 3
SMBus address 0x52
Memory type DDR
Manufacturer (ID) Centon (7F7F7F1900000000)
Size 1024 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC3200 (200 MHz)
Part number JIYG18TVB 1GB
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Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Registered no
Buffered no
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EPP yes (0 profiles)
XMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 2.0-2-2-6-n.a. @ 133 MHz
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JEDEC #3 3.0-3-3-8-n.a. @ 200 MHz

DIMM # 4
SMBus address 0x53
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Max bandwidth PC3200 (200 MHz)
Part number JIYG18TVB 1GB
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Registered no
Buffered no
Nominal Voltage 2.50 Volts
EPP yes (0 profiles)
XMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 2.0-2-2-6-n.a. @ 133 MHz
JEDEC #2 2.5-3-3-7-n.a. @ 166 MHz
JEDEC #3 3.0-3-3-8-n.a. @ 200 MHz

Monitoring
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Mainboard Model MS-7093 (0x000001A0 - 0x005F1753)

LPCIO
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PCI capability
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PCI capability
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Port 0
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DMI
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DMI BIOS
vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
version 6.00 PG
date 08/31/2005

DMI System Information
manufacturer Gateway
product unknown
version unknown
serial unknown
UUID {FFFFFFFF-FFFF-FFFF-FFFF-FFFFFFFFFFFF}

DMI Baseboard
vendor unknown
model MS-7093
revision unknown
serial unknown

DMI System Enclosure
manufacturer unknown
chassis type Desktop
chassis serial unknown

DMI Processor
manufacturer AMD
model AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
clock speed 1990.0 MHz
FSB speed 199.0 MHz
multiplier 10.0x

DMI Processor
manufacturer Unknown
model AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+
clock speed 1990.0 MHz
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multiplier 10.0x

DMI Memory Controller
correction unknown
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DMI Memory Module
designation A0
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DMI Memory Module
designation A1
size 1024 MBytes (double bank)

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DMI Extension Slot
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DMI Physical Memory Array
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DMI Memory Device
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DMI Memory Device
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type unknown
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DMI Memory Device
designation A2
format DIMM
type unknown
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DMI Memory Device
designation A3
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type unknown
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Graphics
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Number of adapters 1

Graphic APIs
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API NVIDIA I/O
API NVIDIA NVAPI

Display Adapters
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Display adapter 0
Name NVIDIA GeForce GT 430
Revision A1
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PCI device bus 1 (0x1), device 0 (0x0), function 0 (0x0)
Vendor ID 0x10DE (0x10DE)
Model ID 0x0DE1 (0x0000)
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Shader clock 101.0 MHz
Memory clock 135.0 MHz
Performance Level 2D Desktop
Core clock 405.0 MHz
Shader clock 810.0 MHz
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Performance Level 3D Applications
Core clock 700.0 MHz
Shader clock 1400.0 MHz
Memory clock 800.0 MHz


Software
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Windows Version Microsoft Windows 7 (6.1) Service Pack 1 (Build 7601)
DirectX Version 11.0


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#10
April 21, 2011 at 20:00:49

For your Graphics card (NVidia) get the latest performance driver here:
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/inde...
The performance control panel will allow you to overclock your graphics and even set an optional overclocked profile and apply that profile only when certain programs or games are loaded, therefore reducing overheating that might occur if it is overclocked full time. Look online at the settings that are the default on the very next model up from your graphics card and try settings that are between the normal setting and the settings from the next level up (these are safer than just choosing at random and they give you a range to work within but that you probably will not reach most of the way up).
See if your internal video has the option like "only if PCIe graphics not installed" rather than the current setting or disable.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#11
April 23, 2011 at 00:13:47

I have the latest updates already from their site. There is no performance overclocking option. No GT 430 profiles either. But Stereoscopic 3D options are available now... If only I had a 120Hz monitor and another extra $160 for their Wireless 3D glasses... I really wonder if u need the 120Hz... Technology is trying to kill my pockets. One day itll all be free.... Anyway the internal video mode options in the BIOS have only UMA and disabled. Thats it. STILL NEED HELP WITH THIS..... Just copped up the new ASUS M4A88TD-M (the overclockers dream) though... USB 3, SATA 6GB/s, TurboV EVO, also has an ATI RADEON HD4250 Integrated chipset (which will become useless once my GT430 is in it). Question has PCIe3.0 come out yet? Havent seen it. Once that comes out Ill be pissed again. Its supposed to double PCIe2.0s bandwidth Anyway, still need the amd 3.6 BE, and 16GB of 2000MHz DDR3 for it. Until then.... I still need to overcome all these questions I have, and sell my old memory, motherboard, and processor. Its up on ebay now. $105 for the 4GB DDR, $60 for the MB, $10 for the processor, and $18 for 512MB 3200 DDR (2x256MB) memory, if anyones interested... But for now can someone answer my questions.....

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#12
April 23, 2011 at 05:41:55

Sorry about that, here is the link to the System tools 6.06 I use that adds the features I mentioned:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/nvidia...
Once you have the new board running and active with all you are going to be using for a while, I would suggest to start a new post with the questions that will be relevant to the new hardware. They will be different. You will not gain mush advantage for most of your gaming I believe going over 8GB RAM with Windows 7 unless you are using also programs that are memory intensive, though the faster RAM will be a benefit. You would be better off saving the extra for a better video card. You will not be using most of the available video band width until you get up into the most expensive video cards available today, so PCIe3 is really for the future and refresh rates over 75MHz cannot be seen or recognized by humans.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#13
April 23, 2011 at 15:05:15

Fingers! Thanks for that System tools! That is nice and its all NVidia. Havent added a profile of my own yet, but I think Im leaning towards the profile selected in the GURU3D articles. The best part of this NVidia is it can be overclocked only for certain apps like u said. Awesome. Im still trying to figure out if my BIOS supports a memory remapping feature, because my memory shows up as Installed Memory: 4GB (3.12GB usable). my resource meter is saying its reserving 898MB for hardware, My BIOS reads 3275776K Total memory. So I guess after I get the new system running it would be best to sell the video card and get an new one better suited. Getting off subject.... So what do u think Fingers? Would this NVidia 3D Vision Kit work with my ASUS VH236H? The ASUS VG236H is the actual 3D Ready Monitor that comes with the NVidia 3D Vision Kit. Wierdly enough, The specs of that monitor in compusas page says 50-85Hz Vertical Refresh, 24-83KHz Horizontal Frequency but then in the features it says thats its able to double its refresh rate to 120Hz frames per second.

http://www.compusa.com/applications...

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicat...

My Monitor The ASUS VH236H has a 50-75Hz Vertical Refresh, 30-83KHz Horizontal Frequency still the same 2MS response... Somethin smells like FISH....


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#14
April 23, 2011 at 20:03:43

I don't do the type of gaming that might benefit from that type of 3D, but there is some potential there. For me and many, the price is way too high and the benefit is way too little, but if you feel that it may be a nice addition to your gaming, the choice is yours. The double refresh is probably needed to make the 3D separation without being jumpy, though It may only be as smooth as 60MHz normal refresh (respectable). You may also find that it taxes the graphic resources more so you would also need to get a better quality card, or make sure your MB supports using a second card to add additional graphics processing power. I would say that if you think this is the way you want to go, then get the best card you can so you are ready if/when you decide to go with that type of 3D. [I just reread everything and looked again at both monitors on TigerDirect] everything appears the same or similar between the two monitors and they may be, but there may have been changes to the electronics to add or improve 3D support and/or they may have selected a more premium LCD display, you would only know by asking them directly, but try it on the phone support since they might find it harder to lie to you.

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