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Subject: Bios Won't Load

Original Message
Name: pcspecialist
Date: October 23, 2007 at 18:54:55 Pacific
Subject: Bios Won't Load
OS: XP Pro
CPU/Ram: 1GB
Model/Manufacturer: Built
Comment:
Alright.. well, I was over clocking (I'm OK at over clocking) my AMD 64 3000+. I had a successful over clock at 2.15GHz. Ran SuperPi, ran great. Ran MemTest, fine with no errors, so all that was fine and dandy. Then, I cam across a website that some people *claimed*, or mores so had benchmarks that were as fast, or even faster than the FX-55. My eyes lit up. So, I went online again looking for the correct way to OC an AMD 64 3000+. So, I went to max out my CPU, because that's what the instructions said. I set My ram to 133MHz, 1T, and 3 latency. Then, Multiplier to 5, FSB to 215. I pressed F10 to save and exit. When I went to restart, I JUST GOT A BLANK SCREEN! Like, it didn't post, nothing! So, I tried to clear the Bios (I think i did it correctly), and nothing happened. Tried to put in a boot disc, nothing worked, just a blank screen. When I turn on the computer, my monitor just says "NO SIGNAL". I have a feeling that my bios isn't reset. I have a Gigabyte k8u-939 by the way. 1GB Ram, 160GB Seagate HD, 7600GS, and a sound blaster.

I hope someone can help me!!
Thanks


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Response Number 1
Name: jam
Date: October 23, 2007 at 19:32:56 Pacific
Subject: Bios Won't Load
Reply: (edit)
I don't know where you're finding your info, but that is NOT how to overclock an A64. And just so you know, AMD systems have no FSB. Done correctly, your CPU should easily run at 2.5GHz+. Here's mine at 2.7GHz:

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i...

To reset the BIOS, you have to 1st unplug the power cord, then move the ClearCMOS jumper to the clear position, wait a few seconds, then move it back to the normal position, plug in the power & boot up.

As an alternate method, unplug the power, remove the CMOS battery, wait a few seconds, then replace the battery, plug in the power, & boot up.

If you wanna know how to overclock the right way, just ask ;-)


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Response Number 2
Name: pcspecialist
Date: October 24, 2007 at 05:47:15 Pacific
Subject: Bios Won't Load
Reply: (edit)
Thanks for replying. Well, I tried both methods, and to no avail, the computer still shows a black screen. Any other suggestions? I'm gonna try to call GigaByte today to see if they can send me a new motherboard (hopefully that's what it is), because I was kinda thinking it was the processor. The only way it COULD have been ruined is if i upped the voltage, but I didn't touch that. Hrm.... Well, we'll see what happens!

Ok, I have kind of a strange problem. Speed Fan detects my sensors and says my CPU temp is 37C. It changed when I'm under load to about 53C max. On Motherboard Monitor 5, it goes from 61C to 62C under


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Response Number 3
Name: pcspecialist
Date: October 24, 2007 at 12:14:51 Pacific
Subject: Bios Won't Load
Reply: (edit)
Does anyone have any more suggestions before I submit my RMA to Gigabyte? I called them, and it's this LONG process. Submit it, wait for a reply, send motherboard back, they attempt to fix it, if not, i get a new motherboard, and then they send it back to me. I'm expecting it to take like.. 2 weeks, if not more. I was curious what you guys would do in this situation. Would you buy a new motherboard, motherboard and CPU combo (because I'm not sure if my CPU went, or just my motherboard), or what? Any suggestions would help greatly!!!

Thanks!


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Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: October 24, 2007 at 15:26:55 Pacific
Subject: Bios Won't Load
Reply: (edit)
"Would you buy a new motherboard, motherboard and CPU combo"

No, I would fix the old combo. It doesn't sound like you damaged anything...you just don't know how to recover.

This was taken directly from your board's manual:

"If you want to erase CMOS...

1.Turn OFF the computer and unplug the power cord.

2.Take out the battery gently and put it aside for about 10 minutes (Or you can use a metal object to connect the positive and negative pins in the battery holder to make them short for one minute).

3.Re-install the battery.

4.Plug the power cord and turn ON the computer."


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Response Number 5
Name: pcspecialist
Date: October 24, 2007 at 15:57:24 Pacific
Subject: Bios Won't Load
Reply: (edit)
I tried that for like.... 3 hours, leaving the battery out that is. I also tried taking apart everything and putting it back together. Started up the computer, and still got the black screen. So, I'm all out of ideas. Any more suggestions??

Ok, I have kind of a strange problem. Speed Fan detects my sensors and says my CPU temp is 37C. It changed when I'm under load to about 53C max. On Motherboard Monitor 5, it goes from 61C to 62C under


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Response Number 6
Name: jam
Date: October 24, 2007 at 16:10:45 Pacific
Subject: Bios Won't Load
Reply: (edit)
"I also tried taking apart everything and putting it back together"

Did you try booting with minimal hardware?

Disconnect all drives (both power & data cables), remove all cards except video, remove all RAM except for one stick, disconnect/unplug ALL external devices except for the keyboard & monitor. Try clearing CMOS again. Then see what happens. If you can access the BIOS, run thru ALL the settings & correct them as needed...do NOT overclock (you're doing it wrong anyway). If you still wanna overclock afterwards (if you get it to boot, that is), I'll suggest what settings to try.


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Response Number 7
Name: pcspecialist
Date: October 24, 2007 at 17:18:45 Pacific
Subject: Bios Won't Load
Reply: (edit)
Alas! I found the jumper cable to my speaker, but I hear beeps! The beeps are continuous. I looked in my manual and it said DRAM. I know my CPU has it's own memory controller in it, but that doesn't rule out the motherboard. So, I'm not sure what to do. I'm almost 100% positive it isn't my ram, but my CPU and motherboard I'm not sure of. I called AMD and they said send it to them to test it... I thought.. what a waste of time. Gigabyte said to send them the motherboard, they will try to fix it, and if not, I'll get a new motherboard. Either way, it'll be 3-4 weeks the guy said. I need my computer, so both seem a little asinine, as I know what my error code is: DRAM.

Ok, I have kind of a strange problem. Speed Fan detects my sensors and says my CPU temp is 37C. It changed when I'm under load to about 53C max. On Motherboard Monitor 5, it goes from 61C to 62C under


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Response Number 8
Name: pcspecialist
Date: October 24, 2007 at 17:20:33 Pacific
Subject: Bios Won't Load
Reply: (edit)
I also tried booting with minimal hardware, same thing happened: Continuous long beeps. D=

Ok, I have kind of a strange problem. Speed Fan detects my sensors and says my CPU temp is 37C. It changed when I'm under load to about 53C max. On Motherboard Monitor 5, it goes from 61C to 62C under


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Response Number 9
Name: jam
Date: October 24, 2007 at 17:50:23 Pacific
Subject: Bios Won't Load
Reply: (edit)
"Continuous long beeps"

Now you're getting somewhere! Try reseating your RAM. If necessary, remove it & carefully clean the contact pins with rubbing alcohol. Wait til it thoroughly dries before trying it again.


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Response Number 10
Name: pcspecialist
Date: October 24, 2007 at 19:23:41 Pacific
Subject: Bios Won't Load
Reply: (edit)
"Now you're getting somewhere!"

Haha! Yeah, took long enough. Anyways, I tried cleaning both of the RAM sticks pins, and I still get the beeping noise. D=

Edit: I tried RAM from another computer, had the same effect: Continuous beeps.


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Response Number 11
Name: Cobra_R
Date: October 24, 2007 at 22:46:31 Pacific
Subject: Bios Won't Load
Reply: (edit)
Sounds like your ram may have gotten too much voltage when you tried overclocking it and could have fried the ram slots.

How much did you jackup the core voltage and did you lock the pci express and pci bus?


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Response Number 12
Name: pcspecialist
Date: October 25, 2007 at 07:15:18 Pacific
Subject: Bios Won't Load
Reply: (edit)
I didn't up the voltage at all. But no, I didn't lock the PCI Bus. I don't think that there was an option for it. Either way, it's looking more and more to be my motherboard. I think I'm just going to suck it up and buy a new motherboard (I found one for $49.00, lol) and a new CPU (AMD X2 3800+, which seems to be a great over clocker). If I do decide to over clock that processor, I will BE SURE to come here first to get your recommended settings, as I don't want to have a reinactment of what has happened. And also, as I mentioned before, I tried RAM from another computer (DDR400), and it had the same effect: Continuous beeping.


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Response Number 13
Name: Cobra_R
Date: October 25, 2007 at 13:47:19 Pacific
Subject: Bios Won't Load
Reply: (edit)
Well you better make sure the motehrboard you are going to buy has a pci and pci express bus lock on it or else you're not going to overclock well.

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Response Number 14
Name: jam
Date: October 25, 2007 at 15:00:39 Pacific
Subject: Bios Won't Load
Reply: (edit)
You still haven't convinced me that it's the board.

What does this beeping sound like? Is it a consistent loop at the same volume & duration? Is it an alternating high/low? Is it a mix of short & long beeps?

It could be that your video card isn't seated properly. Do you have a standard PCI video card that you can try?

http://www.bioscentral.com/beepcode...


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Response Number 15
Name: pcspecialist
Date: October 25, 2007 at 16:34:24 Pacific
Subject: Bios Won't Load
Reply: (edit)
Well, I have 2 video cards. It's an AGP Motherboard: Gigabyte K8U-939 to be exact. The beeps have the same exact tone, and they're long. If I could, I would record it, and post it up somehow so you could listen to it. And it's a constant loop; it continues until the computer is turned off. I have a 7600GS (video card is fine, tried it in a different computer) and a 6600GT, which works OK too. They're both AGP cards as well.

I was looking at this motherboard: http://www.barebonekit.net/itemdesc...

It's cheap, and has AGP. Not many boards now have AGP, and that's the best/cheapest one I've found. I don't want to switch over to PCI-E because then I'd have to buy a new graphics card, and I really don't want to spend that kinda money right now. If I did, then I'd just switch to AM2.

So, Gigabyte told me that it's the motherboard, because nothing (i guess the beeping he means) sounds like it's the processor. Again, they said It'll be a month.. so I'm just gonna buy a board, but I wanted to double check it is in fact the board before I buy a new one.



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Response Number 16
Name: jam
Date: October 25, 2007 at 17:00:27 Pacific
Subject: Bios Won't Load
Reply: (edit)
Like I asked...do you have a standard PCI video card that you can try?

And if you're gonna buy a new board, try to avoid VIA chipsets. It will be tough, but see if you can find one based on the nForce3.


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Response Number 17
Name: pcspecialist
Date: October 25, 2007 at 20:46:48 Pacific
Subject: Bios Won't Load
Reply: (edit)
Nope, I don't have a PCI Video card. And what's so bad about a VIA Chipset?



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Response Number 18
Name: Cobra_R
Date: October 25, 2007 at 21:54:52 Pacific
Subject: Bios Won't Load
Reply: (edit)
You don't need to switch there are socket 939 motherboards out there that support both AGP and PCI Express slots on the same motherboard.

ASROCK 939DUAL-SATA2 $35 bucks.

http://www.eworldsale.com/asrock-93...


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Response Number 19
Name: pcspecialist
Date: October 25, 2007 at 22:09:15 Pacific
Subject: Bios Won't Load
Reply: (edit)
D= Too bad it isn't in stock though, lol.

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