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Name: c4ifford
Date: May 4, 2006 at 04:16:23 Pacific
Subject: Best of the Best Watercooling
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I've got water hooked up for my CPU block right now, SiSoft Sandra says my thermal resistance is too high. my systems seems cool enough in regards with temp indicated at around 33c, the board reports about 50c in the bios. what temp should i believe?


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Response Number 1
Name: Pariah
Date: May 4, 2006 at 04:53:04 Pacific
Subject: Best of the Best Watercooling
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bios, always the bios:-)


"PARIAH" [British By Birth]


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Response Number 2
Name: c4ifford
Date: May 4, 2006 at 05:32:23 Pacific
Subject: Best of the Best Watercooling
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hrrm i've heard the opposite, any how i should clarify the temp im refering to is a on CPU temp sensor, is there any more information anyone can provide? m


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Response Number 3
Name: Pariah
Date: May 4, 2006 at 06:11:03 Pacific
Subject: Best of the Best Watercooling
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what cpu have you got? Are these idle or loaded temps? 33'C seems cool 50'C seems warm(if idle), either way, none of them seem problematic or dangerous. As I said before, I would definately go with the bios reading.

"PARIAH" [British By Birth]


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Response Number 4
Name: c4ifford
Date: May 4, 2006 at 06:46:10 Pacific
Subject: Best of the Best Watercooling
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50c is load gets to about 55 tops when doing heavy gaming, this is clocked with FSB at 230 mhz FSB, the CPU is a athlon64 3000+


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Response Number 5
Name: Pariah
Date: May 4, 2006 at 07:19:00 Pacific
Subject: Best of the Best Watercooling
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I would say that those are fine, good even for an o/c'd system.

"PARIAH" [British By Birth]


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Response Number 6
Name: c4ifford
Date: May 4, 2006 at 08:48:16 Pacific
Subject: Best of the Best Watercooling
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thanks for the info. i do have 1 more question if you know. Sisoft Sandra keeps telling me thermal resistance is too high. But sandra doesn't always give the most accurate information.


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Response Number 7
Name: TMP-Man
Date: May 4, 2006 at 08:49:45 Pacific
Subject: Best of the Best Watercooling
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"50c is load gets to about 55 tops when doing heavy gaming, this is clocked with FSB at 230 mhz FSB, the CPU is a athlon64 3000+"

55C load can be done with air cooling as well... Check out the zalman CNPS9500 or the thermaltake CL-P0024 series. As for my setup with the CL-P0024, if I switch both the intake and exhaust fan on the heatsink to 4500RPM mode, I get 54C full load instead of 65C full load at 2000RPM slient mode... I also used arctic silver 5 on the CPU...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835106044

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835118223

TMP-Man

Asus P5P800-SE
P4 506 2.66Ghz @ 4100Mhz 1.525v
Thermaltake CLP0024 w/ 2000RPM FAN
1024MB DC Corsair DDR400
40GB 5400RPM/120GB 7200RPM HD
128MB Radoen 9500 mod 9700 @ 360/585


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Response Number 8
Name: c4ifford
Date: May 4, 2006 at 09:16:31 Pacific
Subject: Best of the Best Watercooling
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yea but i already purchased a Titan nikita water cooling set up... i'm just trying to see to get the most out of it


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Response Number 9
Name: Pariah
Date: May 4, 2006 at 09:24:17 Pacific
Subject: Best of the Best Watercooling
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I think sandra is telling you that your cooling too much, but, If, as I think, your sandra temp reading is incorrect, then there is nothing to worry about. Anyways, as far as I know, 33'C isn't too cold. I've had mine as low as 29'C.

"PARIAH"[British.By.Birth]
P4 2.6 HT
Asrock P4VM800 M/B
1024mb DDR 400
80GB HDD
ATI Radeon 9600 256mb


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Response Number 10
Name: c4ifford
Date: May 4, 2006 at 10:27:40 Pacific
Subject: Best of the Best Watercooling
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yea mine sits at about 29C (according to the sensor not the bios) and loads up around 35C under heavy usage.


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Response Number 11
Name: c4ifford
Date: May 4, 2006 at 11:16:05 Pacific
Subject: Best of the Best Watercooling
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I think sandra was telling me the thermal resistance was too high as if the CPU block wasn't obsorbing enough heat


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Response Number 12
Name: c4ifford
Date: May 4, 2006 at 11:47:57 Pacific
Subject: Best of the Best Watercooling
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I'm seeing in a lot of post Jam is saying to drop your mem speed to 166 is this to decrease clock speed for the sake of latency i'm guesing?


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Response Number 13
Name: Pariah
Date: May 4, 2006 at 12:18:22 Pacific
Subject: Best of the Best Watercooling
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depends, what ram are you using?

"PARIAH" [British By Birth]


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Response Number 14
Name: c4ifford
Date: May 4, 2006 at 12:39:04 Pacific
Subject: Best of the Best Watercooling
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PC3200, well actually i'll sit it at 5\4 FSB ration since i'm going to try and take my FSB to 250mhz


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Response Number 15
Name: jam
Date: May 4, 2006 at 18:38:09 Pacific
Subject: Best of the Best Watercooling
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"I'm seeing in a lot of post Jam is saying to drop your mem speed to 166 is this to decrease clock speed for the sake of latency i'm guesing?"

It all depends on the motherboard & it's BIOS. Some have an actual CPU:DRAM ratio setting...if your's does, you simply set it to 5:4, raise the CPU Freq to 250MHz & the RAM will run at 200MHz. Other boards don't have the ratio...but set the RAM speed to 166MHz & increase the CPU Freq to 250MHz, the RAM speed will increase to 208MHz. PC3200 will easily handle running at 208MHz.

You can confirm the RAM speed by running CPUZ.


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Response Number 16
Name: c4ifford
Date: May 5, 2006 at 12:12:20 Pacific
Subject: Best of the Best Watercooling
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thanks for all the great info guys... i lot of it i knew and understood but never really had any confirmation on it. apreciate all the help, i read some articles that jam posted as well.


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