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For starters thanks for all the advice from everyone. Now onto the OC, this should help you mate Yo Yo.
After having no luck raising the FSB with any kind of multiplier and posting here, i started again.
I set the HT to x4 and was able to get to:
10 x 225 (without changing the ram speed)
at 230 the ram gave out so i dropped ot to 166 and raised the FSB to:
10 x 230 (RAM speed 191.6 according to CDP-Z)
I'm still in the middle of OC'ing but i thought id post the preliminary results here to see if it would help out.
Good luck
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Ok after a bit of fidling, ive come up with two different end results and i need some info on which is better:
Result 1
RAM = 166MHz (actual 208 i think)
FSB = 245
Multi = 10
HTT = x4Actual Speed = ~2450 MHz
Result 2
RAM 166 (209.7)
FSB = 255
Multi = 9
HTT = x4Actual speed = `2300 MHz
So which would be better? I know the second has a lower final speed, but the FSB is higher....
Also im not sure of the reason for stopping at this point, the temp never went above 47c and i played with different voltage setting's but i can't seem to push past this point. Even with the HT and RAM speed lowere more then this it still won't go higher.
Would this just be the limit of my particular CPU?
heh heh long post but one more:
Is 3rd party cooling really necessary if my temps are still not much above stock?
Well im off to play a little more and see what i come up with.
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Houston,
I obviously don't know much about 64's. As a matter of fact, I don't know a whole lot about anything. But I do know this. Jam would pick the higher FSB over the GHZ any day. He claims that that is where the performance is and up to this to this point in time, I believe him. I can honestly say that he has never steered me wrong. Go for the FSB. And that's my opinion and I'm stick'n to it! Good luck! And if you don't mind, I would like to pass this info on to my friend. Thanks for the input!
YO
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But Houston,
I'm confused by your ram settings. 166? Do you mean 166X2=333mhz as in 2700DDR? Don't you have 3200DDR which is 200X2=400mhz? Maybe I misread something. Hmmm!!!
YO
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Yeah i set it to 166, but with the 45Mhz overclock the memory actually runs at 209Mhz, as reported by CPUz, i got that tip from a couple of posts on here.
As to the benefits of FSB vs GHz ill do some benchmarking right now (as there's not much else to do and post some results up.
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Ok after some quick benchmarks (this is by no means a comprehensive test).
Using PCMark 2004 Pro and only the 10 system tests.
10 x 246 = 47089 x 255 = 4534
Hmm interesting,... anyone want to comment?
My temps finally hit above 50c i think 57c under load, should i be worried?
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ha ha forgot to answer your other question,
Campbelltown, Australia about an hour from Sydney for those non-NSW's people.
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Heh a lot of posts for two blokes eh? :)
I just set everything back to standard and got ~4300 PCMarks. Not really much of a jump considering that the biggest OC was over 2000 MHz. Wonder if thats because the HTT was lowered?
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LOL! I know a dude from New Zealand. A big time rugby player he was, and I remember that he always sounded like Crocadile Dunde! Of course the Crock was from Australia. lol!
Nice to meet you mate! How is my Texas accent? lol! I really like that kind'a talk!Now back to the problem. Well! I would haf to to go with the top numbers in your case mate!
If you learn anything more, pass it along.
As I said before, Thanks for the info!
YO
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YOYO lower your HT down to 3 and try to raise your fsb higher you may have to lower your ram down to 133
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I'm not up on the Athlon 64 & what settings work best.
For a socket A system, I would recommend shooting for the highest possible stable FSB setting, even if that means running the CPU slighty slower overall. But you also have to remember that the RAM's throughput should be in balance with the CPU's bandwidth, or the RAM will bottleneck the system. I assume this holds true with the A64.
I don't know if either of these will help or not:
http://www.hothardware.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=23&threadid=24884&enterthread=y
http://www.amdzone.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=50541
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Ha Ha you would never believe it i just come back from getting stitched up because a beer exploded while i was mowing the lawn and shot me in the arm!!!! The worst part is this is the second time ive been shot by a beer bottle!! (used to work in the tooheys brewery at lidcombe)
I know its off topic but i need someone to cry to and besides, im drunk and that excuses all bad behaviour!!!!
BTW YoYo did your mate have any luck with his 3400 yet? and if so how high did he get it?
and Jam thanks for those pages, after a bit of looking, it seems that 10x245 is around the highest anyone really goes barring different RAM and HT settings.
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Houston,
Nah. I think he finally made it back to stock and gave up. I would hate to think I spent $2200 on a puter that I couldn't fiddle around with. BTW what's the going beer in Australia now?
YO
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was it an empty can the exploded? I am a landscaper and when I cut the big open lawn with my rider lawn mower I migh run over 5 cans usally they make a loud noise and puff there gone.
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oh man, always Toohey's NEW for any self respecting Aussie, and ROB, no it was a couple of bottles of home brew that had been sitting on the back porch in the sun for about 6 months, i think a rock from the trimmer hit one and it went of like a FRAG grenade.
Fished some glass out of my arm a glued it back up, been out on the burboun all night.
But working at the brewery it was a regular occurence, cause they're pastuerised (heated to kill the bacterier, to improve shelf life) a couple of dozen would explode every day, i just seem to be the one with the target painted on him!!!!! The best thing to see was cans exploding on the production line, it 's like dominoes.
But just a note on the OC'ing, i stopped at 10x245 FSB, RAM at 166 (204.2MHz OC) and HT at x4, this is with the standard cooling and im happy with that, and with my shiny new X800 XT platinum i doubt that any new software will be giving me lip any time soon.
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Heh heh yeah im good :)
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