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what is a safe tempeture for an athlon xp 1900 to be running at? i dont have any case fans and i was wondering if my cpu fan alone keeps it cool enough inside. its running at approx. 130 degress fairenheit! (i guess i spelled it right) . it just sounds a little hot, but maybe its okay?
You should not have a problem at that temp, although I would definitely get 2 case fans with an xp 1900. I have an xp 1800 with the Antec case(Alienware SOHO case). It came with 2 case fans and I hardly ever run over 100 F on the processor and about 80 F over ambient in the case. I am also using the Coolermaster HC001 hsf though and that thing is sweet.
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AMD DOESN'T SAY BELOW 95 C, cuz its about 200 F!!! I'm running 125 F without that thermal paste, and it bothers me, I will put it on in couple of hours.
It will be just fine below 55 C, but better if below 50 C
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i too have the athlon xp 1900....however i got the pack bundled with a heatsink and fan the heatsink had a strip on the bottom which when pelled of expossed a strip of thermal paste in the documentation it stated that this is all that would be required however my cpu's running at 50'c idle and up too 56 loaded i have it in a lian-li case. should i apply more thermal paste?
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I am currently using an Athlon 1900 and I have an extra case fan. However my system keeps locking up which I have traced to my CPU running at 70 degrees celsius at normal load. This temperature increases greatly when doing processor intensive tasks. I am going to upgrade to a quality (AMD recommended) heatsink and fan in the near future. When it comes to thermal paste I would always recommend using extra paste. Although the strip of thermal paste is OK I always find that a lower, more constant processor temperature can be maintained by using extra paste! Hope this helps!
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Using loads of themal paste will increase your temps. The stuff the companies put on the bottom of heat sinks is way to thick, its best removed and to use a well known heat transfer compound. It need to be smeered arround the bottom of the heat sink where it makes contact with the cpu core. It only needs to be >0.5mm for a good contact, after all it is only there to fill in any scratch marks on the core and hsf. It is not replacement for the heat sink itself. I have a Coolermaster Heatpipe with a homemade 60mm-80mm fan adapter and running a 1900+ athlon xp i get less than 45C as full load. Using the 7000rpm 60mm fan gets much lower temps but is way to noisy!!! Hope this helps. I cannot stress how little compound must be used, otherwise it will stop the transfer of heat.
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Any suggestion on how to remove the compound from the cpu before installing a new heatsink/fan?
Cecil
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Take off the Heatsink/Fan. If you just used thermal compound on the connection, you can use Rubbing Alcohol. Just use a Q-tip and gently rub it around the core, drying it with the other end when necessary. *Don't be stingy with the Q-tips, use a few if needed.* Then just clean the bottom of the Heatsink/Fan with a rag and some Rubbing Alcohol. But if you have a Thermal Pad or Thermal Tape on the Heatsink/Fan, I recommend going and buying "Goo Gone." You turn your heatsink/fan upside down (so that the bottom is facing up), and put some of this on the part where the Thermal Tape is, and give it 5 min. or so. Come back with a rag and just wipe all of it off. For the Core you will have to use Rubbing Alcohol again, this time being careful when removing left-over Thermal Tape pieces.
Hope this helps!!!
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My MB (A7V333) reports the 1900+ at 56C on full load. But I have my doubts as to its accuracy; installing a thermocouple next to the core may give us some different readings. Also, it may be important just where by the core you place it; a scematic of the core could lead us to an educated guess as to the hottest side. I will try this when an ordered kit arrives and let you know.
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I use my pc in a music studio so noise is an issue. I've got the Zalman Flower heatsink and have managed to get my 1900+ cpu ruuning at 49c idle.
Are there better brands of thermal paste as it would be good to get the temp down a bit further?
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First:
Okay, I trust the thermal diode. Across the board I had 0 to 2 degree C difference between my micro thermocouple and the CPUs.
Second:Thermal Grease
The most importand concept to understand when applying these compounds is that more
IS NOT better.
(Many recomendations go to Arctic Silver, and, for the price, I would trust the vast majority on this one.)
Regardless, the compounds purpose is to fill the microscopic irregulatities between your heatsink and your CPU. Too much will result in a slight insullation of the processor. Just visit the Artic Silver web site or type "thermal compound arctic silver application" into any search engine. Even if you use something different the knowledge will still be useful.
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Matt,
49C is not bad at all. But if you would like to reduce the sound of the PC even more I would suggest water cooling ONLY because you seek to rid yourself of the vaccum cleaner-like sound. These modifications are expensive(about $200) and instillation is not for the weak or faint of heart. Kits, for most, are the way to go. If your studio budget can affort it then a good place to start your research is:
(www.tomshardware.com/cpu/02q1/020102/index.html)
'www.tomshardware.com' has a great review of many water cooling set-ups as well as detailed instructions.
Good Luck
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I've just installed a Zalman copper flower heat sink on my 1900+ mainly because I was sick of the noise / drone from the stock hest sink & fan supplied. The Zalman is magic, and keeps the temperature at 57 on "silent" mode when working hard, but I can bring it down to 47 ambient with the fan wound up using the supplied speed controller.
I've even been able to remove the extra case fan I had installed because of initial high temperatures when I bought the system before Xmas (summer then here in New Zealand so was higher air temp then, admittedly so will have to keep an eye on it next summer).
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Here you get the amd standars...
http://www.duxcw.com/faq/cpu/xpspec.htmMine always is in 50-51 C and have no problems. Anyway theres an app "cpucool" which work very good.
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About 50-51 C and with no problem ! Of course the problem is not apparent at the time. But over the long period of time, the expectancy of lifetime of a particular processor is of being dependent on the only one or two or few times of highest temperature endurance that this processor had to carry at one point in the past. Two weeks use of 60 C may already shorton this expected lifetime of the processor.
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I have a AMD 1900+. When I got the PC, the temp was at about 50C. But now, the temperature rose up to about 58-59 C. Do you think its ok? I'm thinking of getting a Volcano 7 CPU fan. Do you think its going to solve the problem?
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