I already have a pci-express slot and a decent video card also (A Saphire Radeon X850 XT), the only reason I'm thinking about upgrading is because a friend of mine is looking for a normal rig and he offered a good price for mine, so if I add a hundred or so more dollars to what I'd be getting from him, I can afford one of those processors with it's respected motherboard. I'm also thinking about upgrading my card to an X1950 XT, I found a decent deal on that as well. The price of the Athlon X2 4600+ 2.4 Ghz just dropped to 208 dollars as well, so I'm considering that. The reason I'm thinking about buying a new video card is that: I'm not going to be able to afford a card that supports DX10 anytime soon, so why not buy a decent (midrange) DX9 card now that will last me until prices of Dx10 cards drop. So, with the money I have, I have an option between these two processors. Also, if I do get an Am2 socketed motherboard or an intel core 2 duo socket 458 I think? motherboard, they will be able to support future Quad core amd cores and the intel one already does support the qx6700.

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"Thats not true..." ........so you are categorically saying an E6600 & an X1900GT will give a better gaming performance than E6300 & an X1950XT? "In benchmarking mine (OCed) it actually nearly surpasses an X1900XTX." Listen to yourself - if your X1900GT only nearly surpasses the (stock speed) X1900XTX after you overclocked it, what do you think will happen when the X1900XTX is overclocked by the same token - lag behind your X1900GT - huh?. Of course not, only one thing is expected to happen & that is, the X1900XTX leaving your X1900GT totally in the dust...........LOL How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

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Heya, Sabertooth, im not saying my X1900GT is more powerfull than an X1900XTX, im saying that it is sufficient enough... U dont need all the top end stuff to play games.... Ure saying it like he NEEDS an X1900XT to play games.. that is not true. Anyways, i would get the X1900GT OR the Geforce 7900GT along with a better CPU. U don't need all the highend stuff to play games. A better CPU will give u better overall performance for ure system. Getting an X1900XT and a crap CPU will make very little difference than getting an X1900XT with a slow CPU. Its ure choice: A system better for gaming, but slower overall VS A system that is close in gaming performace, but just a bit slower in games. however, it will be faster overall. Asus P5W DH Dlx C2D E6600@3.78GHz air cooled CrucialBallistix 2GB PC2-6400 RAM5-5-5-15 Sapphire Radeon X1900GT Mushkin XP650 PSU 640GB 320BG X 2 7200rpm HDD 36.7GB WD Raptor 2X DV

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I am NOT worried about the video card! This thread is purposed for the picking of the better Processor, not video card. I just need to know which of these two processors TRULY is better at everything!

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lol, okie. I would suggest the E6300. It is faster by a bit, and just a bit more in cost. Also, it has a lot higher over clocking potential. Asus P5W DH Dlx C2D E6600@3.78GHz air cooled CrucialBallistix 2GB PC2-6400 RAM5-5-5-15 Sapphire Radeon X1900GT Mushkin XP650 PSU 640GB 320BG X 2 7200rpm HDD 36.7GB WD Raptor 2X DV

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"Sabertooth, im not saying my X1900GT is more powerfull than an X1900XTX, im saying that it is sufficient enough..." If I was someone who is crazy about bleeding edge technology, my response #5 would certainly have been very different. Now if you go back to my response #2, you also would noticed the X1900GT vs X1950XT referrence in that response was a hypothetical one & it was made specifically to allow for an easier to grasp of the statement being made.....you are free to draw whatever conclusions you desire from it, however the message was clear AFAIK. "U dont need all the top end stuff to play games.... Ure saying it like he NEEDS an X1900XT to play games.. that is not true." And I totally agree, but to perhaps properly address this, I can only quote your last (albeit contradictory) paragraph from response #6: "And my advice to u nightscope, if ure gonna get a new computer for gaming, i suggest u either wait for the R600 to release, or buy a cheap GFX card for temporary use. If u get an X1900XT right now, u won't be able to play all the future games with all the eye-candy DX10 offers. Either that, or get a a Geforce 8800GTS/GTX" I don't think it's hard to see who is really advocating bleeding edge components here............LOL The OP may not have made a direct inquiry regarding a graphics card, but we give advices & suggestions based on the whole picture - in the long run it actually could help the OP with his goals & the informed decision that he is consequently able to make in order to achieve them. How To Ask Questions The Smart Way

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i have the same problem myself i am buying a new comp but i'm still having to read alot up on everything so i dont mess up get the wrong thing or not really that but mine is mainly for gaming also first person shooters as i have want to see the best proformance at max speeds, aa as all that stuff turned up but im running amd fx 60 4 gigs dual channel ram fast kind my comps under a year old but im getting another one its 939 socket btw like a week after i ordered mine they released the am2 socket i was upset to say the least i dont want that to happen again lol anyway maybe we could help each other out after carefull thinking i dont know if i'm going to even fool with building it myself like this last one just depends i have been racking my brain with these parts and sites and learning about parts and some i dont even understand well just that phycic 128 card acculature thing anyway are you planning on waiting how much you spending? i love my evga i bought for this comp 8800 gtx 768mb it pretty much runs everything at 1600x2000 aa as all the way up but its just one in the first of its kind so if your wanting to wait on the next thing thats cool im just running one of these and i play everything max settings and i've had absolutly no prob with it no hicups or anything frames are the best i was shocked also the cards they're selfs are massive im about to start a thread i need some help myself on what parts to get etc. but im just going to order from one site this time i think and if i need something else i'll just new egg it overclocking the amds now a days is easy thought they have that N.O.S and A.I booster that will oc it for you and tells your speed fps speed temp fan speeds and volts i think it goes all the way up to 10% just the thing with the fx chips they seem to run kind of hot mine is in the mid 50's while playing a game 40 38 idle depends if its hot in my house or not something is not right i dont think maybe not enough air flow i dont know for sure intake+outtake and two side fans and one on the other side think it would be cool and alot of air flow but its fulltower so if ya worried about frying your chip i dont know if your going to go with asus mb or what but that little ai booster is very nice ocing it slow at first it goes through 1-10% and nos i think overclockes it every time you play a game and then underclocks when your like websurfing those new intel chips look very nice though i think what games do you play btw? i'm playing quite a few but bf mostly just makes it funnier when i have a friend to play it with or fear or anything hl2 send me a aol msg sometime we'll talk comps n games my aol is lesane22

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This nonsense conflict is starting to aggravate me. This is a thread about MY processor question, not video card question. The PURPOSE of this thread was to discuss which is superior out of the following processors: Core 2 Duo E6300, or Athlon X2 4200+ (Am2). If you are not going to reply based on this topic, please don't reply at all. Now, is the E6400 worth the extra 30 bucks? Does it overclock better by any chance? Is overclocking worth it? Lets say I get the E6300 and overclock it to a stable 2.6 Ghz, will that truly cut the processor's life by a profound amount?

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