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Athlon 2800 overheating

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Name: Zaustus
Date: July 5, 2003 at 19:36:39 Pacific
OS: Win XP
CPU/Ram: Athlon XP 2800+/512mb Eli
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Hi,
I'm putting together a new system: Athlon XP 2800+, 512mb elixir ddr, asus A7N8X-dlx motherboard. I'm now able to get it to POST, and I can get into BIOS, but after a minute or so the keyboard locks up and I can't do anything but shut it down.

I think the CPU is overheating; I checked the system temp BIOS page and was getting varied readings, up to ~66c. I know that's a bit hot, but should the computer be shutting down at that temperature?

I used white thermal grease when installing the heatsink/fan assembly (a CoolerMaster X-Dream HAC-V81). I was later told that grey grease is better. I also suspect that I used too much grease at first. I took off the heatsink, and found that the chip on the CPU didn't have the grease spread equally on it.

I guess my question is twofold: Should I find some of that grey thermal grease (and how much should I use), and what's a good temperature for the CPU? Should it be shutting down at 66c? Thanks,

Zach




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Response Number 1
Name: aaa
Date: July 5, 2003 at 22:20:06 Pacific
Reply:

Hey
All i can tell you is what i get.
2600xp+ . Stock fan.
38-48c Is my cpu temp.
Cya


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Response Number 2
Name: Zaustus
Date: July 5, 2003 at 22:47:23 Pacific
Reply:

Thanks for the reply.

I tried again and found that now the CPU temperature is at 36c. I'm still having the problem where the keyboard locks up though, and sometimes it won't POST at all. I put in more memory; that could be the culprit.

The voice messages I'd been getting when I powered up said "CPU failed due to overclocking" ... but I haven't even touched the factory settings! I did apply a bit of the grey grease, and I think it's helping somewhat. If anyone else has any ideas, feel free to share.


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Response Number 3
Name: Froggx
Date: July 6, 2003 at 00:30:02 Pacific
Reply:

What is the wattage on your power supply, and the brand name, too?


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Response Number 4
Name: Mapo
Date: July 6, 2003 at 04:39:37 Pacific
Reply:

Can you post your BIOS settings for FSB, Multiplier, Memory Timings & Voltages please?


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Response Number 5
Name: johnoh
Date: July 6, 2003 at 07:06:44 Pacific
Reply:

use only a very thin layer of grease. White or grey are about the same. Make sure you clean all the old stuff off.

66c is high enough to cause you to shutdown/lock up. The problem is likely your heatsink/paste/fan, or the cpu vcore voltage is set way over stock of 1.65v, or the mobo is reporting temp incorrectly and is set to an autoshutdown of 70c.

the sink may not be on flat - make sure it is not 180 degrees reversed.

the xdream clip is weak. If you have another sink I would try it. If it works better, then the xdream may not have been pressing against the cpu properly.


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Response Number 6
Name: Zaustus
Date: July 6, 2003 at 11:33:58 Pacific
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Froggx: It's a PowerTek 500W supply.

Mapo: FSB = 166mhz; Multiplier = 12.5; Memory = 200mhz; voltage = ? I can't get into BIOS at the moment.

I'm able to POST sometimes when all the ide cables are disconnected from the motherboard; if I plug any one of them back in, it fails to POST. If I hang around in BIOS too long, it locks up and I can't restart the computer for a half-hour or so. It gave me the vocal message "Memory test failed." I've tried other sticks, and in other slots, and it doesn't make any difference.

johnoh: I have the heatsink that came with the processor; I can give that a try.


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Response Number 7
Name: Dethlok
Date: July 7, 2003 at 07:07:53 Pacific
Reply:

**cough***cough***MOTHERBOARD***cough***cough**

I'm thinking you're having a motherboard problem...

I would try switching the Ram to start off with... Also, check your Video Card. I would also try lowering your Mem to maybe 133mhz frequency to see what happens.

If that no worky... you may want to either try the ram in another Mobo or even hook another Mobo up to see how things work out.

As far as the Temps go... I would read a faq on using Thermal Grease... How to clean your chip before application...

Here's an interesting discussion on Thermal Grease from these very pages.

http://www.computing.net/cpus/wwwboard/forum/5237.html

Also... here's an article on Applying Thermal Grease. It's more of a product comparison but gives you a good technique for applying the compound.

http://htgk.org/jeuda/articles/hardware/coolem/thermalpaste/full.htm

Personally... I think it's a mobo problem but replacing the mobo is a last ditch solution. exhaust all other resources first. I had a similar problem and held out for over a month before replacing it... in the process I learned more about computers than I ever learned in class.

And I still don't know crap.


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Response Number 8
Name: Froggx
Date: July 8, 2003 at 02:19:27 Pacific
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Bump your fsb and memory down to 133Mhz and see if that fixes your problems. If that doesn't work take out all the add in cards except the gfx card and take out all but 1 stick of memory. Also disconnect all drives except the floppy, your main boot drive, and 1 optical drive. See if problems stop then. If they don't, reflash the bios, maybe it's corrupted.


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