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Another case of bad pads!

Original Message
Name: dk_sn1p3r
Date: March 14, 2007 at 00:54:46 Pacific
Subject: Another case of bad pads!
OS: Embeded Linux-Router Solu
CPU/Ram: AMD XP 2000-ddr 333 512MB
Model/Manufacturer: Home Built
Comment:
I've got an old AMD XP 2000 that I want to reuse to put into a shuttle pc. Two of the processor pads feel off and are intact and one split in half. I've heard that I can glue the two intact pads, but I'm not sure what to do about the split one.

I found that there are some shims available still on the market for this processor:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Thermaltake-Cop...
http://cgi.ebay.com/COPPER-SHIM-FOR...

Although I've heard shims might hinder the performance of cooling, especially in shuttle PCs.

Heres my case that I'm using:

http://www.apevia.com/product.php?p...

If I get a shim and glue it to my CPU will it hinder my cooling in this case?

Should I just try fixing the split pad?

Can I get pads online of the appropriate size?

Also, are there shims for Barton core processors? Say for example AMD XP 3200's?

-DeathKnight Sniper


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Response Number 1
Name: dk_sn1p3r
Date: March 14, 2007 at 01:00:22 Pacific
Subject: Another case of bad pads!
Reply: (edit)
Hmm coper shims holds heat against the processor, and conducts electricity. Mabye thats a bad idea maybe I should look for non coper shims...

-DeathKnight Sniper


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Response Number 2
Name: dk_sn1p3r
Date: March 14, 2007 at 01:10:17 Pacific
Subject: Another case of bad pads!
Reply: (edit)
What do you guys think of this:

http://www.casecooler.com/nonconshi...

-DeathKnight Sniper


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Response Number 3
Name: SCX_Tyler
Date: March 14, 2007 at 02:58:28 Pacific
Subject: Another case of bad pads!
Reply: (edit)
the idea of heat distribution is to take the heat away by transferring it away from the cpu into either metal (heat sync) thats spread across a large area and puts the heat into the air or a water cool system the puts the heat into the water... but either way you go (water/air) copper conducts heat better so unless it makes contact to 2 connections and causes a short, copper is better for heat distribution.

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Response Number 4
Name: jboy
Date: March 14, 2007 at 20:11:58 Pacific
Subject: Another case of bad pads!
Reply: (edit)
'heat sync'?

Is that the technical term?

I'm not one of those who think Bill Gates is the devil. I simply suspect that if Microsoft ever met up with the devil, it wouldn't need an interpreter.


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Response Number 5
Name: dk_sn1p3r
Date: March 16, 2007 at 16:51:08 Pacific
Subject: Another case of bad pads!
Reply: (edit)
Status update. So far I just glued the pads back on. I am going to order a mica shim and I'll let you guys know how that turns out.

-DeathKnight Sniper


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Response Number 6
Name: plyduster
Date: March 17, 2007 at 16:48:18 Pacific
Subject: Another case of bad pads!
Reply: (edit)
The pad's are not really necessary, providing you take extra care when clamping down the heat sink. The pad's do have one advantage if you're using thermal compound, however. After applying the compound to the core, you can easily center the heatsink prior to clamping it down, without disturbing the application (i.e. the heatsink doesn't make contact with the core yet). This allows you to center the heatsink without smearing the compound all over the place when lining up the heatsink clips with the socket clamps. I took the pad's off my XP 2000+ 4 years ago, and have swapped heatsinks at least a 1/2 dozen times. Never had a problem. Of course, I would have preferred to leave them on the chip, because it does reduce the chance of smearing the thermal compound when installing the heatsink.

In the end, it's entirely up to you whether to use the pad's or not. It does lessen the chance of chipping the core. But with such an old cpu, it doesn't really matter.


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