Name: t_evl1 Date: August 17, 2004 at 08:24:12 Pacific Subject: amd vs. pentium OS: windows nt CPU/Ram: p3 650/256mb
Comment:
I am building a new computer and I don't know what type of processor I want to get.... can someone tell me the advantages that I would get with amd over intel and vice versa?
Generally, in my experience, you will get more bang for your buck from AMD processors. However, as the gentleman above indicated, a price range is a good place to start. I would recommend the following, depending on how much you want to spend on CPU ONLY:
Please realize that, on top of the CPU cost, you have the motherboard and all the other components. The more you spend on a CPU, generally the more you will end up spending on a MB and possibly RAM; the other parts are not as tied to the CPU. Also remember when looking at CPUs and Motherboards, keep in mind the appropriate socket and make sure your selections match. For any AthlonXP, you need a Socket A board, for the lower Athlon64s you need a socket 754, and for the highest Athlon64s you'd need socket 939. The same goes if you decide on Intel: most everything is socket , but the newest chips are LGA 775 (sometimes called Socket T). Anyway, good luck with your computer :)
MSI K7N2-Delta Athlon XP 2500+ 2x256MB Kingston HyperX PC-2700 ATI Radeon X800 Pro 256MB SB Live! 5.1 MSI TV@nywhere Master WD 160GB 7200rpm HDD LiteOn 52x CD-RW LiteOn 16x DVD
I just read your initial post again, and perhaps I didn't really answer your question very well. As far as benefits of AMD or Intel CPUs, here is a (basic) rundown:
Intel: 1) Brand name 2) Faster core speeds 3) Hyperthreading (most models) [tricks Windows into seeing "two" processors, improves performance some (5%-15%) in multi-tasking situations; on rare occasion can DECREASE performance slightly in some applications] 4) Newest chips support LGA 775 (new socket type) and the matching motherboards have PCI express (new add-on interface) and DDR2 memory
AMD: 1) Price 2) Get more done per clock cycle (that is why slower chips can tie or outperform Intel chips) 3) 64-bit processing (on Athlon 64s only; not yet supported by Windows, but a 64-bit version is in the works, so in the future performance of these chips will increase) 4) On-chip memory controller (again, only Athlon 64s; this allows faster, more direct access to the system's RAM and increases performance in memory-latency intensive applications) 5) Generally easier to overclock (be carefull with ANY OCing, though)
There, hopefully that actually answers your question a little better :)
MSI K7N2-Delta Athlon XP 2500+ 2x256MB Kingston HyperX PC-2700 ATI Radeon X800 Pro 256MB SB Live! 5.1 MSI TV@nywhere Master WD 160GB 7200rpm HDD LiteOn 52x CD-RW LiteOn 16x DVD
Lol. They are both excelent cpus. Like above said, what you want it to do and how much to spend is the answer. In my opinion, the Athlon 2500 MP is the steal of the day as it is overclockable with software. But if you don't care about that, I'd say a 2500XP because I am tight with money and I have one. You should not pay more the $99 for it. www.microcenter.com are selling it for that price, and the 2800xp 333mhz for $109. They are a reputable computer retailer, with several stores as large as CompUSA here in Georgia.
Irritates the crap out of the local compusa when I use them as my pricematching example, lol.
Watch your terminology. Pardon if I'm wrong, but did you mean that MP = mobile or the Athlon that is geared for multiprocessor boxes? If you meant mobile, just call it a mobile. MP's are a very different thing. ;-)
Athlon MP is an extended version of Athlon XP. The core difference is that you can use MP's in 1-2-4-8-16-32-64 systems, while XP is "stuck" on single-CPU machines. Also, MP's performance is usually at about 120% of its XP counterpart. MP has nothing to do with mobile processors, although if you REALLY want to you can swap your mobile in laptop for MP and gain in performance (but loose in battery life;)
Hello, and thank you for your great response William, but to answer the questions you were all asking I am going to be using the computer for a lot of games and I do work on some computers locally I know a lot of basics with computers but nothing really advanced and from I have read about amd I think it would be a better processor then intel just from the mere fact of the fsb speed thx for reply again
Hey William , we almost have the exact same set up. MSI K7N2G-L.Unlocked 2500+ with 2x256 corsair xms 2700(running in dual channel). I was wondering what your overclocking specs were. I have mine running at 2.2ghz/ bios settings are: fsb 200/multi 11/and vcore at 1.65. I was wanting to know how far you can push the 2500's with 333 and what the settings were.
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