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My question is this, i'd like to know what performs better.
I'm planning on playing High end grpahics games and such so i'd lke a processor with power and speed.
Whats the best one to chose of the two
an amd athlonxp 2800+ or P4 2.4Ghz
Now ther both diff mhz but which performs betta 4 what i want and so on?
Any info is appreciated
Hi,
Your going to probably get a tonne of posts on this one. Personally if i had the money id go for the intel 2.4c, with 800 mhz bus and hyperthreading, I feel that it would be the faster processor. Bit more expensive maybe. But its just my view.
Jon
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I'd go with the athlon xp. Athlons have been proven to be faster in lots of benchmarks and stuff. They are cheaper too. By the way - hyperthreading is like any other processor extensions - it doesn't help unless your applications are optimized for it.
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I would definitely go with the AMD. AMD's work great with gaming. I have a Athlon XP 2000+ and my brother has a P4 2.2Ghz. I can play games faster and he even has a better video card. Or it could be that he uses Windows XP and I use 2000, but I'm guessing it's the processor.
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Get a AMD 2500+ XP Barton. It is easily overclockable and only costs about $90, retail. I have had mine easily over 2300Mhz but currently run @ AMD 3200+ speeds (very stable).
Yeah, just run it at 200fsb and a 11 multiplier and your computer will recognize it as a 3200+!..$450 processor for $90?????? Not bad, eh?
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But it still won't beat an overclocked Intel 2.4c @3.2ghz ;)
The only reason most people say get AMD is cause they buy it and think it's the best solution, but in reality Intel is faster in %99 of tests. except for ut2003..seems the only game almost, and only loses by 10-15 fps. In most games Intel is faster. HT or not.
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"but in reality Intel is faster in %99 of tests."
I'm curious about what you mean here. If you mean a 2.4 p4 is faster than a 2800+ 99% of the time, that's not a credible claim.
And if you mean an 800fsb 2.4g is faster than a 2400+ 99% of the time, that is also not credible, although it is faster more than 50% of the time. However (assuming you are not overclocking) if the amd buyer pays the money on a motherboard and memory that the 2.4g/800fsb p4 buyer does, he can run his 2400+ at a not-overclocked 9x220 and beat the 2.4g/800fsb more than 50% of the time.
If you mean the intel buyer can overclock his p4 to its max, and then beat the overclocked amd cpu 99% of the time, that's a fair statement.
Intel cpus, whether overclocked or not, max out at slightly higher scores than amd cpus, but at far higher prices.
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buy amd. why, there just cheaper, and the heatsinks dont weigh half a ton and certainly dont need to be the size of a whale. there may be a difference in proformance but what game actually uses a 1.6 ghz letalone a 2ghz+. you can do what ever you want but if your sensible you should buy amd simple because its possible to buy a cpu, mobo and hsf for the price of a pentium.
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I meant a 2.4C@3.2ghz would beat a 2500+@3200+.
And even though it says you only nead a 700mhz processor to play a game...that's only at minimum detail and not the best FPS. With a 3.6ghz you can have much faster FPS therefore you can turn on all the detail settings, and play the games the way there supposed to be played!!! Isn't that what everyone wants..i know i do..and my 3.6ghz allows me to do that.
Got my MAX3 and pc4000.. tell you guys tommorow what it's able to do with my 3.06ghz.
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I've narrowed down all the spec's of my new pc 2 this. The AMD blatently works out a hell of alot cheaper but i dont mind spender that'll lil bit more 4 power..I don't know much bout overclockin and stuf. N i know the gainwards aren't the best makers 4 graphics cards but stuf it init. So am i hearin evry1 correctl 3.2Ghz from a 2.4Ghz!!!!..The 2800 amd costs same as 2.4 P4 pretty much 10quid diff!. I want the system to b overclockable 2 a certain extent n so on. 'l prob upgrade 2 1 Gb of ram n the processor wel if its stable at 3Ghz gdgd.The intel im correct in talkinbout at 3ghz iv neva heard of a 3ghz amd of even 3200wots the clock speed on dat.
Neway heres the spec's of the 2 pc's im lookin at jus check out n c wot would perform betta 4 games n so on..The P4 is prob bout 40quid more but im willin 2 pay that...I fink theres alot of contraversy ova whats betta amd is cost effectie as intels r bit mor expsnive payin 4 a brand n have way mor popularity than amds in my view..Neway pplz check out the specs n tel me the best1 2go 4!PC 1 Specifications:
Intel Pentium 4 (2.4Ghz) 800FSB
512DDR Ram (PC3200)
Gainward GeForce FX 5600 256MB FX PowerPack Ultra/780 XP Professional (Dual DVI) 4.0ns DDR 8X AGP VIVO DVI
120GB Seagate Barracuda (Serial-ATA) With HDD Cooler
Creative 5.1 Sound Blaster Live! Oem
Asus P4C-800 Deluxe Motherboard 800Mhz FSB
Samsung CDRW 52X Black Drive
Samsung DVD-Rom 16X Black Drive
3.5Inch Floppy Drive
Chenbro PC61319 Black/Silver With 450W PSU
(90MM Cooling Fans Front and Back and 60MM Side Panel Fan For Case)
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Oem
15" TFT Monitor (Preferably Black&Silver to match PC Case)PC 2 Specifications:
AMD Athlon XP 2800 Barton 333FSB
512DDR Ram (PC3200)
Gainward GeForce FX 5600 256MB FX PowerPack Ultra/780 XP Professional (Dual DVI) 4.0ns DDR 8X AGP VIVO DVI
120GB Seagate Barracuda (Serial-ATA) With HDD Cooler
Creative 5.1 Sound Blaster Live! Oem
Asus A7N8X Socket A Nforce 2 AGP8X 400DDR Audio USB2.0 Firewire Serial-ATA Motherboard
Samsung CDRW 52X Black Drive
Samsung DVD-Rom 16X Black Drive
3.5Inch Floppy Drive
Chenbro PC61319 Black/Silver With 450W PSU
(90MM Cooling Fans Front and Back and 60MM Side Panel Fan For Case)
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Oem
15" TFT Monitor (Preferably Black&Silver to match PC Case)
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Its sounds like you are focussing on the statement about overclocking a 2.4g p4 to 3.2g. In terms of overclockability, amd is better than intel. The mhz ratio of a p4 to an equally performing amd xp is 4:3. So if you plan on overclocking your p4 to 3.2g, you could just as easily overclock a 1700+ to 2.4g.
If you want the very fastest machine whether its stock or overclocked, go with intel. If you want a machine for half that cost that is 10% slower, go with amd.
Your writing/typing is burdensome to the reader.
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Don't know what Burdensome means. The Overclock isn't really a big concern. It'd only thought about for after its grown of age and it's time for an overclock sort of thing. I don't plan on overclocking because i ran a 750 duron n that ran most stuf cept games lik ut2003 n that ran thanx 2 ma beasty graphics card..Which broke!.. The P4 sounds good..Good speed. Runs cooler but performance wise im thinkin.
Neway i'll post prices when ma email comes thru
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If you don't plan on overclocking i'd have to say get an 2.6-2.8ghz atleast.. Or even an AMD since your not oc'ing.
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I've gone for the AMD Athlon XP 2800+!
Spec's Slightly lower than expected because of motherboard. Asus A7N8X Deluxe.
Has onboard Lan,5.1 Surround,Firewire,6 USB2.0!.
Got 512 (pc3200) and 256 gf gf 5600 with 80gb hdd because of costs!..£722 quid inclusive of vat.
I figured for a TFT in the price it wasn't that bad. 32quid ova budget but overall but a bad deal
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