Brain, what is your gripe? He was trying to help and to be honest, 666 is right in what he said. There are no "guides" or standards, people that have experience with it, get a feel for it.

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To “666”, no disrespect intended. To “mike”, in answer to your question: No real gripe, I just want to really know if there is an answer. What I’ve found is that people have “a feeling” for what these numbers ought to be and then others (myself included) jump through all sorts of hoops trying to achieve “proper” temps, sometimes breaking our stuff in the process. I think it’s OK for people to have “feelings” for what they think are appropriate temps for CPUs but I think that it is BULLSH*T to come off like some EE with vast technical experience about “proper” CPU temps unless you can back your statement up with some technical data. By the way, I think 58-59 C is high for an Athlon 1.4GHz Tbird. Mine was running in that range with the heat sink/thermal tape supplied by Thermaltake on their Volcano 7. I replaced it with generic (I have a friend who works for Dow Corning) thermal paste and now run 47-52 C with the cover closed and about 5 degrees lower with the cover open.

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I quoted the average temp of about 50 T-birds I made over the past 6 months. I also had bad experience with the t-bird 1.4 GHz 266 MHz FSB, especially with DDR ram

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666: I appreciate your posting back! This is what I was looking for with my earlier post. I hope that my comments did not offend you. How is it that you had the opportunity to put together 50 Tbirds? You run a shop? You have lots of friends? You burn up a lot of computers? You work for AMD?

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work at shop that does mostly AMDs

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Does that temp hold true for the Athlon XP’s (like 1700 etc) too?

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The XP's create a bit less heat than Thunderbirds would (if they can clock that fast, although some can). The temp should still be around 42-48 C. you just need a bigger fan( well above 1600+)

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well, when i said 58-59C i refered to the top temperature. in win xp it usually works at 48C and doesnt pass the 53C when i use it for a long time at 100%. But on xp almost any game doesnt works propely so i instaled win98se also and hire it runs at 54C. only in the games it get hotter at 58-59C. i sould mentioned that i put again enough thermal grease and i didnt see a great change . also i ll apreciated any support in how can i make the games run porperly on xp(like porsche, fifa2002..) thanks man!!

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I slapped a t-bird 1.4 into my MSI K7N420 Pro mobo. Idle temp=50C Load=57C(Ghost Recon, all settings to high)It has gone as high as 60C per PC Alert. Though I must admit, I am running a Cooler Master heatsink/fan and am too lazy to install a case fan. Also, I have the cover off the case. One of these days I will dump a 60mm case fan in and stick the cover back on, but probably not until I smell burning silicon.

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I have a amd 1.2 athlon and my cpu temp runs at like 120-130 . for someone reason when i play games. My comp frezzes often. I think it might be to overheating but i tryed alot of stuff to keep it cooler but to no avial. if u have an idea what my porblem is or how to fix it can u please email me at enycexpaul@aol.com thankz

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I have to agree with the majority here. I've been all over AMD's site and can't find any definitive answer on what the "NORMAL" operating temperature should be. I have seen some postings that the xp chips have a max temp of 90C. I would certainly have shut down my system long before it hit that temperature. I'm running an xp1900 on a Soyo Dragon mobo. Antec 1070 case with stock front and back 40mm fans. With the stock AMD fan I was getting temps up to 59C when running Unreal Tournament. (My office is a bit warm. Subjective I know but I don't have a thermometer in here. I'd guess between 75 - 80F.) I just installed a Thermaltake 7+ (the solid copper model) and at idle it's now at 40C and after a half hour of UT it's only getting up to 48C. And that's with the fan running at medium speed (4800rpm).

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I'd say an AMD 1.4 (which is what i have) should run about how 666 Says. mine runs about 48 C less without side cover. I can also tell you this...make sure you always know your cpu fan is running. Mine stopped for about 10-20 min and my computer gave me "the Blue Screen" and i checked the temp and sure enough it was 197 degrees F. By the way im running a Coolermaster All copper Heatsink and fan with 2 case fans and a ventilator <-----those dont work as well as they say

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how about my adm athlon xp 1900+ non-OC'd? it's running at a consistent 42-47, and around 57-52 under gaming, usually Counterstrike. is this normal??

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Try Arctic Silver 3 thermal grease and VCool (www.vcool.de). My non oc'd 1.4 has a idle cpu temp of 36c. Running UT at 1024x768 for an hour jumps at 55c. Before as3, my temp was averaging 10-15c hotter. My gf4 ti4600 adds a lot of heat to the case, so I put on a PCI fan. Works ok. Saw an average drop of 2-5c. Whatever works... I guess.

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I have an AMD XP 1900. Two raided 40GB 7200 rpm Hd's Cd burner 512Mb ddr ram Gforce4 4400 I bought the TT Vocano7+, put some arctic silver on the cpu... My idle now is 37-38C and after a couple of hours of gaming I go up to 42C. This is all on the medium speed setting. My case has 2 exhaust fans and one front intake. Case temperature is 32C. If anyone wants - I can get them some pictures or videos of how everything was set up and so on...

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I have an AMD tbird 1.4 running on a Asus A7V133 MB, 394 PC133, 2 40 GB 7200RPM HD, Geforce 2 video card, scsi Adapter. Anyway I noticed that my processor was running, (according to Asus probe)120 idle to 150 with high processing. At random times my IE sesions will crash, and at other times my computer will just reboot. I believed this to be a temperature issue, so I purchased a Koolance PC2-601 to cool it down, Now the Asus probe still says 150 but the Koolance temperature monitor says 89-101. I still had my crashing and rebooting problem, I installed another exhaust fan. Still have the problem. Is my memory getting too hot? is my processor just a POS ? Any comments would be great. Thanks

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hi what maximum temp for AMD 1G duron cpu ?

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From cold my CPU hits 72degC before I'm out of Bios.... I am guessing that a) it is fubarred and b) that I need a new one btw. I am blue screening all over the shop and have a 1.4 AMD

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I have an Athlon XP 1700+ that idles at around 44C and and runs at around 50C under heavy load. I'm using the stock thermal solution that AMD provided. When I first built this machine, I was a bit astonished at the temperature because my PIII 800EB ran at 32C-40C. I quickly got used to the new AMD temperature - haven't had a heat-related lock-up yet.

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Hi there, I have an AMD athlon 1800+, with an Asus motherboard (Via KT333 chipset) 256mb DDR333 ram, 80gb maxtor 7200 rpm, Geforce 3 Ti200 w/128mb ddr. burner, cdrom. I was constantly getting cpu temperatures of about 65 (over 72 degrees under load) degrees until I installed both a front case fan, and a rear exhaust fan. Now I get roughly 55 degrees at idle, and around 65 degrees under load. Im not sure if these somewhat high temperatures will have any long term effects on cpu life (or short term for that matter) My old celeron 800 would rarely go above 38 degrees, and I had it overclocked too. From what I've read, around 45 degrees is a healthy temperature. Im using the stock AMD supplied fan in the retail boxed cpu.

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Hi There, this is the first place with reliable Info about AMD Temps, so I post my data to. I run an TBird 1,2 on an Abit KT7raid mobo. I use a SilverOrb Cooler as it looks great. I have 3 HDs running and use a Gforce256, as this produces a lot of heat. I use 2 Papst systemcoolers (one in the double fan power supply). I usually have a System Temp from about 25 to 30 °C (case shut). My TBird is always between 50 and 60 °C. I I think the only way to get this temp lower is to by a very expensive Cooler, so I run the risk of a low lifespan for my CPU ;-)) hope this info helps others who search for documentaion about AMD Temps

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Here is the URL for AMD's technical documents if you want to find out about your TBird or XP "normal" operation temperatures. http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_739,00.html

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Hi, My Cpu(AMD Athlon xp 1700+ is reaching temps of 60C.Is this normal.Will it reduce the life spa of my processor ?Iam using the HS and fan that was provided by AMD along with my processor.Does anyone have a solution for my problem.

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I installed an XP1800+ yesterday and found the temp running at 55-60 immediately after a playing Quake or other 3D games. I am running the HS/Fan that came with the CPU. I was also using a PC card system blower (mounted under the GeForce2, an 80mm case fan in the front/bottom of the case. Today I cut out the top of the case and installed the 80mm fan as a blowhole, cut some plastic from the venting at the front/bottom of the case, cut out the grill in the case chassis in front (now there is just a diamond shaped hole), removed the PC Card fan, and installed a 60mm fan approx. 2" below the Pwr. Supply and directly behind the CPU. Why remove the PC card fan? Well, seeing how it's not possible to mount it above the AGP slot I figured that it was redirecting the airflow across the bottom of the case. Not much good for cooling a CPU near the top of the case, huh? Now my CPU temp does not go above 51 (even when playing Quake3) and the case temp has yet to see 26. I'm going to reinstall the PC card fan tomorrow and see what happens. In answer to your questions: Yes 60 is a little warm. The solution: get more airflow into the case, and in the optimum direction. ie: front/bottom --> top/rear. Good luck. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hi, My Cpu(AMD Athlon xp 1700+ is reaching temps of 60C.Is this normal.Will it reduce the life spa of my processor ?Iam using the HS and fan that was provided by AMD along with my processor.Does anyone have a solution for my problem ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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hey all...my 1ghz tbird will run downright chilly at around 33C idling, but shoots all the way into the mid 60's after heavy gaming. I get crashes from time to time. Since my idle temp is low, i wouldnt think its a huge problem with the hsf, but what causes such a huge jump?

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My XP 1800+ on a Gigabyte DDR333 w/TT Volcano 7 runs 50-58C from idle to load running XP pro. Case has 1 in, 2 out 80mm fans. This with ambient temp of 85F. No Problems at all. My previous Tbird 1300 ran 10 degrees cooler on same case and conditions and with a smaller HSF TT volcano 6 Board Epox 8KTA+. No problems either. AMD advises a max temp of 90C, but no "normal" given.

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AMD 1.4 - A7A 266 256 DDR 64 meg ATI Full Case 1 case fan -out- 1 slot fan -out- FOP-38 gum that came with heatsink Idle at 55C plus (same as cheap Coolmaster and quieter) ?? I will add front intake case fan - should I install above or below cpu fan? Hot summer days with Coolmaster met 61C - my mother board begins to emit a high pitch sound - time to shut down...

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Well I have a 1.33 T-Bird chip but run it consistantly at 1.45 by overclocking the FSB to 145Mhz. Anyway the running temps go up to 57C and if the room is hot then maybe 58C. However one has to be aware that the temperature measurement technique (thermal contact diode) is not the most accurate. So when people say get a feel it is probably the best way. A good test is to look at the temperature read as soon as one cold boots up the PC and see how this will compare with a thermometer in the same room. Kill

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I had read this somewhere and it is as follows: With the AMD Athlon XP 1800+ and up, the only solution to lowering the CPU temperature is by buying and installing a big enough heatsinks+fan, those that had been used for overclocking, even when this 1800+ Athlon not be overclocked at all. Heatsink+fan that comes with the retail box 1800+ is, in fact, too small for the real usage of the power that this 1800+ can provide. As many experienced users expert-to-be advanced users had advised that using this retail-provided heatsink+fan only as a temporary substitute until the "real" big enough heatsink+fan (those that be used for overclocking of 1900+) be installed.

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Hy all ! I have an 1.7 Ghz Athlon XP processor on a Gigabyte kt333 with 256 Mb 333 mhz and ATA 133 HDD. My system heats at about 51 to 56 degrees C and my processor heats at 60 to 65 when normal used, and at almost 68-70 when loaded. Though the air in my room is very hot, and I don't use any supplemental fans in my system, it won't go over 70 deg. C. The system is quite stable and I think I won't meet any heat problems. I guess than going over 70 deg. C can become harmful, but that temp. is not usual for Athlon XP processors with normal coolers. Anyway, I think that cooling a little bit the air in my room will make the processor work at about 55-60 deg. at max. So I think that normal temperatures for Athlon XP at 1600-1800 is 50-60 deg. C in summer (without air conditioner) and may go up to 70 in hot rooms. In winter it works at about 40-50 (if you don't have such a hot room even in witer :) ). These temperatures are for processors in systems without only one cooler, no other case fans or cooling devices.

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I'm running an MSI KT333-ARU MB, 512MB Corsair DDR, 80GB 7200 RPM HD, GF4 TI4200 64MB w/ fan, none of which have been overclocked. At idle running XP Pro my temp runs around 35 C. For cooling I'm running 4 Antec SMART fans (two in, two out) and an Antec Reference CPU cooler at 7,500 RPM. I hit about 39 C after some serious gaming. From what I've read here, it looks like I have some overclocking room and that I may have gone a little overboard with my system cooling...

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Forgot to mention my processor is an Athlon XP 2000+.

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My Amd athlon 1.4 ghz is around 62ºc with the case on, but when i take it off and put a fan against it it drops to about 57ºC. Can someone help me think of a way to reduce this temperture even more. I am running on an Asus A7A266, my heatsink is a Thermaltake Volcano 6cu and I have some normal thermalpaste on it. My cpu has melted once already and the company I bought it from repaired it, but i think it is going to melt again so can someone please help me think of a way to reduce the tempreture to a more sensible º cuz i can't afford to keep getting this chip repaird

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My XP 1700+ CPU is reading 60 degrees C and case says 41. No problems or freezeups so far. If I open up the case temps will drop to about 52 and 36. I would like to know what temps you see in the bios when you FIRST start a cold computer. My readings are around 44 CPU and 32 case. I suspect that the sensors may be wrong, because my room temp is about 21. Or do the components heat up that quickly? Anyone? Would like to hear from as many people as possible, also average operating temps for your AMD XP setup. ECS K7S5A Motherboard GeForce2 video card Also would like to plug van Kaams Motherboard Monitor freeware. Great program! Thanks

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