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amd Athlon @ 77 degrees, gotta be o

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Name: angela
Date: June 30, 2003 at 01:39:38 Pacific
OS: XP-home ed
CPU/Ram: athlonxp2000+/256mb
Comment:

Hi, My pc is a brand new packard bell iconnect 4048 model with an athlon xp 2000+ but I noticed the cpu temp in bios was 63 degrees to begin with. Once windows is on it gets up to 73 degrees within 10 secs and my MB temp is around 49 degrees (I think this is high too, is it?) I have had technitians out replacing the heatsink and fan, and also replacing the cpu but it makes no difference. Because the pc is new, I shouldnt have to buy a bigger better fan, it should come with fans that can keep the pc cool. Also its a pain doing anything, because I have to go through a call centre to get any help, they are all thick and they dont give no info to technitians and they never come with the right parts! Also now I am thinking faulty sensors, but I really dunno, I've noticed alot of posts in various places with similar probs with athlons, so maybe it is the cpu/fan. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanx.



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Response Number 1
Name: SkipCox
Date: June 30, 2003 at 02:29:00 Pacific
Reply:

It is too hot if the reported temps are correct. The techs need to check actual temps with a thermocouple and/or replace this machine if they are unable to make the necessary repairs. Sorry you have to deal with a manufacturer that sends the techs out to "fix computer".


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Response Number 2
Name: Tbird4point6LX97
Date: June 30, 2003 at 06:28:31 Pacific
Reply:

just did a google search on your computer and there's nothing....are you sure what it is?


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Response Number 3
Name: XxxFrancisxxxUSA
Date: June 30, 2003 at 08:12:07 Pacific
Reply:

Ok, this is probably not what you want to hear.

Each tim I open up a Compaq, HP, Dell, etc, I am AMAZED that they still think they can get away with putting 150 watt/200 watt power supply units in the machines!!!

I am almost willing to bet, your machine has been loaded with a 300 or something substandard, and in such a case, the temps all-round are going to be higher as everything struggles to get enough juice.

Check the wattage rating on the PSU. if it is less than 350 (350 is scraping the barrel for 2000XP) yuo will have to either tell the HP tech to change it (you know he/she won't though) or go out and buy one for yourself. I recommend a 400watt or higher, which is what I run with my Athlon 2000XP and my temps are in the low 30's for cpu.

:-)


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Response Number 4
Name: Froggx
Date: June 30, 2003 at 11:36:02 Pacific
Reply:

I really don't think things heat up as they fight for power. I'm pretty sure they just die off if they aren't getting power, then the system crashes.

Check the heatsink and see what it is made of. It's probably one of those inefficient aluminum blocks that come bundled with low speed retail cpus. Feel while the comp is going, if it is warm things are transferring ok, but if it's cold, heat isn't transferring right. Are there any case fans in the comp? If the motherboard has that high of temperature, then either you have really bad airflow or you live really close to the equator.


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Response Number 5
Name: Jim
Date: July 3, 2003 at 06:50:34 Pacific
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I have an AMD 2400+ and it runs at 118 to 120 degrees all the time with no problems. 5400rpm cpu cooler and two case coolers running a 3000 rpm and nothing overclocked.


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Response Number 6
Name: Froggx
Date: July 3, 2003 at 16:13:49 Pacific
Reply:

You're talking fahrenheit. Nobody talks fahrenheit for cpu temps. Convert to celsius and try again.


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Response Number 7
Name: C_Legend
Date: July 4, 2003 at 13:37:36 Pacific
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Froggx, watch yourself! People DO talk about temps in Fahrenheit. If anything, it annoys me when I have to convert the Celcius to Fahrenheit to give me a idea of really how hot it is. From now on, convert your Celcius to Fahrenheit and report it, so I don't have to do the conversion.

Here ya go:

Take your Celcius, multiply it by 9/5, and then add 32. Now, give me the real temp!


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Response Number 8
Name: Froggx
Date: July 4, 2003 at 23:42:51 Pacific
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That's just uneducated americans. If you know the math, then going to celsius from fahrenheit shouldn't be so bad. Keep in mind this is an international forum.


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Response Number 9
Name: C_Legend
Date: July 5, 2003 at 18:36:29 Pacific
Reply:

I wish Angela would have specified Celcius or Fahrenheit in her original post. Granted, Jim probably jumped the gun by assuming Fahrenheit, but I think you were rude in your follow-up post.

Oh, and by the way, these "uneducated" Americans have all these companies that give this forum a reason to exist. Let's see....Intel, AMD, Microsoft. Shall I go on?


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Response Number 10
Name: Froggx
Date: July 6, 2003 at 00:26:10 Pacific
Reply:

For "uneducated" Americans I wasn't implying those companies, I was implying forced conformists, people who try to break stuff they don't understand. Stuff like the celsius thermal scale. I'm sorry I offended your inability to conform to modern ideas. Another thing to note, looking through Intel's and AMD's tech sheets, I notice that they don't use the fahreneit measuring system at all, only celsius. If even the cpu manufacturers use this system, it's obvious everyone else should too. I think I'm going to agree with the people that made our cpu's on how I should measure temperature rather than with you. It's also obvious that angela was speaking celsius, as those are common temps for celsius, but you would need some kind of extreme cooling such as a peltier to reach those kinds of temps in fahrenheit. Calm down, it's not good to be such a jerk on forums designed to help people with their problems. Argument closed.


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Response Number 11
Name: C_Legend
Date: July 6, 2003 at 03:06:40 Pacific
Reply:

I'm the jerk?

As far as the manufacturers are concerned, all the systems I've had that report CPU temps report the Fahrenheit as well as the Celcius. Americans (us backwards folks, as you seem to believe) buy a great deal of PCs, and we are just stuck in our ways. Sorry.

While we're at it, I think we'll continue to enjoy our miles, pounds, and gallons.

Good day.


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