Ok Folks Here's the setup i wanna acheive: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (3000+ O/C?) 1024 DDR PC3200 Ram 256 DDR Geforce 6800 Ultra 120GB Seagate 8MB Cache Now i'd like to set this on an nforce3 250 mobo. What ones are available and when. The main two i'm looking at are: Asus K8N-E Deluxe MSI K8N Neo Platinum I'd like one with onboard 5.1 channel sound + and onboard lan. The two listed abova sound like there the best. Now the cpu i wanna av a 3200+ but there expensive! like £190 and thats alot of money for me. The AMD 64 3000 Is cheaper found £140 now can the AMD 64 3000+ Be overclocked?, If so how and out of the two mentioned above which would be best to run it off. The HSF Will be a Zalman CU7000 Cooler. Some of the conponents aren't out until next month btw. Such as The Geforce 6. Btw if anyone knows where i can buy this as soon as it comes out please leave a msg. I Mainly shop from ebuyer,simply,microdirect,novatech all co.uk sites. Also any good cases reccomended? My Price range is limited £150 £300 £50 £100 I Might be able to push for an OEM AMD 64 3200= But i can't find many. I Want an amd 64 3000+ or above no 2800+ cus there the crap ones Does the 1mb l2 cache makes a difference noticeable?