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AMD 64 3000+ to AMD X2 4200+

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Name: Night
Date: August 2, 2007 at 18:57:55 Pacific
Subject: AMD 64 3000+ to AMD X2 4200+
OS: WindowsXP Pro
CPU/Ram: 2.0Gghz/1Gig
Model/Manufacturer: Abit AN8

Comment:

I'm getting the "AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 939 1MB Toledo Dual-Core CPU" Tomorrow and I was simply wondering what I should do to prepare. I read over the net about a "Hotfix" to make it more stable durring game play (I don't play many games other then CS:S) Also smoother durring regular use of apps (which is what I want)
Before someone posts this, I've already tried OCing it but I couldn't get it past 2.1ghz and I got this cheap so I went for it.
Abit AN8 Socket 939
AMD64 3000+ @2.0Ghz
Corsair 1Gig Dual-Channel 2x512
MSI Radeon x800 PCI-E
Seagate 160Gig SATA
WesternDigital 80Gig SATA
WesternDigital 160Gig SATA
Antec TC 2.

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Response Number 1

Name: jam
Date: August 2, 2007 at 19:21:40 Pacific
Subject: AMD 64 3000+ to AMD X2 4200+

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"I've already tried OCing it but I couldn't get it past 2.1ghz"
You couldn't get the 3000+ past 2.1GHz? Depending on which core you have, you *should* be able to get it to 2.25GHz (9 x 250MHz). You'd have to drop the RAM setting in the BIOS from DDR400 to DDR333, disable all Spread Spectrum options, lower the HT multi from 5x to 4x & possibly increase the CPU voltage.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that you should lock the PCI-e bus at 100MHz.
As for the CPU swap, there's nothing to prepare, just do it. Configure the BIOS settings the 1st time you bootup & check the temps...if all is well, reboot into the OS

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Response Number 2

Name: Cobra_R
Date: August 3, 2007 at 01:52:54 Pacific
Subject: AMD 64 3000+ to AMD X2 4200+

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You may want to make sure that your motherboard will be able to see the X2. S939 motherboards built prior to May of 2005 will need a Bios update.

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Response Number 3

Name: jam
Date: August 3, 2007 at 07:01:55 Pacific
Subject: AMD 64 3000+ to AMD X2 4200+

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Yeah, right. The need for a BIOS update is a possibility. Good call.

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Response Number 4

Name: Night
Date: August 3, 2007 at 15:20:39 Pacific
Subject: AMD 64 3000+ to AMD X2 4200+

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I did the BIOS update perfectly with the FlashMenu program that came with my ABIT software. I'm now using the X2 processor but one little problem. I was toled i'd be getting the..
"AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 939 1MB Toledo Dual-Core CPU"
but I actualy got the..
"AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ 939 1MB MANCHESTER Dual-Core CPU"
I don't know if it makes a difference. I bought it off Ebay (the guy had good reviews at 99.3% and sold 33917 products) This was his specs:
Specification
Mfr Part Number: ADA4200DAA5CD
Process Type: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4200+*
Frequency: 2.2 GHz
FSB: 2000MHz HT Speed
Cache: 2x 512KB
Process: 90nm SOI
Socket: Socket 939
Power Consumption: 89 W
Package: OEM
I took a picture from CPU-Z of what I have
You'll find the pic on my FTP site
ftp://24.226.69.80
Username: Computing
Password: CPUquestion
(All the caps are where they're suppost to be)
Abit AN8 Socket 939
AMD64 3000+ @2.0Ghz
Corsair 1Gig Dual-Channel 2x512
MSI Radeon x800 PCI-E
Seagate 160Gig SATA
WesternDigital 80Gig SATA
WesternDigital 160Gig SATA
Antec TC 2.

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Response Number 5

Name: jam
Date: August 3, 2007 at 15:39:38 Pacific
Subject: AMD 64 3000+ to AMD X2 4200+

Reply: (edit)

Did you verify the markings on the CPU before you installed it or did you slap it in without looking?

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Amd x2 4200+ vs p4 ht AMD 64 3000+ vs AMD X2 3800+ overclocking x2 4200 X2 4200+ AM2 speed versus 4200/6400 fx-55 vs x2 4200	AMD (venice) Athlon 64 3000 + overclocking amd 64 3000+ AMD Athlon 64 3000+ amd 64 3000 runs cold Athlon X2 4200 (Am2) Vs Core2Duo E6

Response Number 6

Name: Night
Date: August 3, 2007 at 15:40:35 Pacific
Subject: AMD 64 3000+ to AMD X2 4200+

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Uhh..option B :D
Abit AN8 Socket 939
AMD64 3000+ @2.0Ghz
Corsair 1Gig Dual-Channel 2x512
MSI Radeon x800 PCI-E
Seagate 160Gig SATA
WesternDigital 80Gig SATA
WesternDigital 160Gig SATA
Antec TC 2.

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Response Number 7

Name: Night
Date: August 3, 2007 at 15:51:25 Pacific
Subject: AMD 64 3000+ to AMD X2 4200+

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If you want me too, i'll take it out and take a picture of it if you think it'll help you. Just won't be till monday.
Abit AN8 Socket 939
AMD64 3000+ @2.0Ghz
Corsair 1Gig Dual-Channel 2x512
MSI Radeon x800 PCI-E
Seagate 160Gig SATA
WesternDigital 80Gig SATA
WesternDigital 160Gig SATA
Antec TC 2.

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Response Number 8

Name: jam
Date: August 3, 2007 at 20:27:25 Pacific
Subject: AMD 64 3000+ to AMD X2 4200+

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You don't need to take it out but I know I sure would have noted the part number before installing it. Also, I notice you referred to the L2 cache as being 1MB. It's really 2 x 512k...there's a difference.
ADA4200DAA5BV = Manchester
ADA4200DAA5CD = Toledo
Newegg still has the Toldeo for $84:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

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Response Number 9

Name: Cobra_R
Date: August 3, 2007 at 22:30:03 Pacific
Subject: AMD 64 3000+ to AMD X2 4200+

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The only diff between the Manchester and Toledo version of the X2 4200+ is that the Toledo version has a higher stepping E6 then the Manchester E4.
X2 4200+ Toledo version is basicly nothing more then a 4400+ X2 with half its L2 cache disabled, though that's what AMD and Intel like to call it. But in reality those models are really the defective models that didn't pass full testing. I found that out when AMD made another version of the s939 64 3700+ on the Toledo core. It was really no more then a 64 X2 4400+ with one dead core.

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Response Number 10

Name: Night
Date: August 4, 2007 at 05:28:14 Pacific
Subject: AMD 64 3000+ to AMD X2 4200+

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Newegg has it for 10$ cheaper then what i got it for. Also, i'm Canadian. They don't ship to us :(. I'd love to get things from there though. Thanks for the comments and all your help. I think i'll be fine.
Abit AN8 Socket 939
AMD64 3000+ @2.0Ghz
Corsair 1Gig Dual-Channel 2x512
MSI Radeon x800 PCI-E
Seagate 160Gig SATA
WesternDigital 80Gig SATA
WesternDigital 160Gig SATA
Antec TC 2.

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Response Number 11

Name: vydec
Date: September 5, 2007 at 13:30:48 Pacific
Subject: AMD 64 3000+ to AMD X2 4200+

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I am trying to do the same type of upgrade. Single core 3000 to X2 4200 (Newegg $78 including shipping - most excellent) MB MSI K8T neo (6702e) AGP type video. Have already upgrade BIOS to newest version (9.4) supporting dual cores, MSI site shows the X2 4200 to be ok for the MB if BIOS is 9.1 or newer. When I put in new CPU board freezes, won't post. I sent it back hoping it's just DOA. Has anyone tried this on the MSI 6702e MB? Or are there any CMOS settings that I should change for dual core usage? I did try turning on the APIC – didn’t help.
MSI K8T neo 6702e
AMD 64 / 1G Corsair
SATA Seagate RAID-0 striped

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