Hey guys i was about to built a new system and i heard alot about Oc' 2500+ with these 2 motherboards Abit NF7-S 2.0 or Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe just wanted to make sure which one is best for oc and what kinda ram & how much should i use?

Please Explane step by step N00bie here

Thanks in advance
QuIk

Abit NF7-S 2.0
2500+xp mobile
512DDR 3200
64mb Geforce4 MMx440
Super X Alien 500Watt

You've already got the items that you need listed..Abit board, 2500+ mobile, 512mb PC3200 RAM. You could use a better video card if you're into gaming though. I'm not sure of the PSU specs, but the more amps on the +12v rail, the better

Hey Jam

Yeha i was thinking about that BUT i heard alot about Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe that its also a good mobo just wanted to make sure that if i wana make a 3200+ what mobo i go with :/ and i think that PSU has 12+ rail all Super X Alien box does :) 2nd question is pc3200 or pc3700? i heard pc3700 is better overall

Thanks for the reply

QuIk

Abit NF7-S 2.0
2500+xp mobile
512DDR 3200
64mb Geforce4 MMx440
Super X Alien 500Watt

Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe....Good
Abit NF7-S 2.0.........Better

"i think that PSU has 12+ rail all Super X Alien box does"...actually all PSU's have the +12v rail just make sure the one you get has @ least 18Amps on that rail.

"PC3200 or PC3700"...they are not rated @ the same speed and bandwidth. If you can afford to get PC3700 go for it, but PC3200 or PC3500 should be okay for your overclocking needs.

DDR 266 - PC2100 - 2128MB/s
DDR 333 - PC2700 - 2664MB/s
DDR 366 - PC3000 - 2928MB/s
DDR 400 - PC3200 - 3200MB/s
DDR 433 - PC3500 - 3464MB/s
DDR 466 - PC3700 - 3728MB/s
DDR 500 - PC4000 - 4000MB/s
DDR 533 - PC4200 - 4256MB/s
DDR 550 - PC4400 - 4400MB/s
DDR 566 - PC4500 - 4528MB/s

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Hey guy

humm i think i can get pc3700 :/ just $40 more and thanks for your help & time :) good choice Abit NF7-S 2.0 still rocks

QuIk

Just to give you an idea of the NF7-S v2.0 board...

... I have my 2500+ Mobile at 3200+ (2.2GHz) at 1.6v (1.584 actual, since it undervolts a bit) and it's not even breaking a sweat.

RAM is 1GB Mushkin Basic PC3200 at stock voltage at 2.5-3-3-11 timings, but for a max OC, I'd get some better RAM than this.

My only 2 gripes about the NF7-S v2.0 board:

1. CPU Disconnect feature doesn't work correctly (it gives you lower idle temps), but there is a small Windows utility that does the same job, S2KCTL.

2. The temp reporting is a little screwy, giving you really low idle temps until you reboot then it reports correctly, specially with the newest 24 BIOS.

Cheers,

Trey

hey Trey

I still have few qes tho about 2500+cpu

i heard alot about

2500+ Unlocked
2500+xp Locked
2500+xp Mobile
2500+xp Barton
2500+ ? god knows what

can you please explane which one is good? and how do i know which one i got or to buy?

Thanks
QuIk

Though the above post was directed to Trey, I could not resist the urge to add my 2cents.

When you post a thread and you get responses, you need to do some research too based on the responses. It is a voluntary site you know, some questions are tutorial in nature and can be answered by just simple googling.

This may help you.

Locked/Unlocked - CPU multipler status
Mobile/Desktop - CPU designation
Barton/Thorton - CPU core classification

I believe jam already told you what to buy "mobile 2500+ (Barton core)".

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hey bud

i do check around and also google it but some times i dont get it thats why i come here :) to guru's like i said @ starting im a n00bie just need more info i saw cuple post by jam and other people they explane very good thats why i want to know but still one question how the heck i know if its a mobile :/ or thorton locked or unloked etc etc ?

Thanks
QuIk

Abit NF7-S 2.0
2500+xp mobile
512DDR 3200
64mb Geforce4 MMx440
Super X Alien 500Watt

all right all right I'll take the bait

"2500+ xp Unlocked"

a barton made before 10/1/03. You can change the multplier.

"2500+ xp Locked"

a barton made after 10/1/03. You cannot change the multiplier.
(I'm keeping it basic and leaving out the caveats to these dates)

2500+xp Mobile
an unlocked cpu which runs at lower voltage and overclocks better than the desktop barton, but is otherwise identical

all of them are bartons

Hey Trey does S2KCTL work fine on that nf7-s? I tried it on my sis735 and it froze it solid. Yet the s2kctl web page claims it runs on virtually everything.

Yeah, S2KCTL is working fine, no problems on my particular setup.

Over at the ABIT forums more and more people are using it on their NF7-S's and even though a couple have reported that it does nothing for their idle temps, I haven't seen any complaints.

Johnoh hit everything else on the head...

... And for an extra 10-12 bucks, definitely get the Mobile over the non-Mobile chip, then OC the hell out of it. I'm going up to 2.4GHz tonite, and beyond? We'll see, since some have pushed it to 2.7 on air cooling. I better not blow my chip, cuz then I'll have to use my wife's PC, and she HATES that. Why? Hehe, cuz I try to overlock it any chance I get!