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huh?huh? True; you can get two NF7-S boards for about that price but that's not the point. IC7 boards are expensive but if you're running a P4, they take a back seat to no other motherboard I'm aware of.
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Some of us run a P4 and this board is second to none for P4 OCing. The only other boards worth considering are Asus P4C800-E and Abit IC7-G MaxII.
huh? you are right, NF7-S is cheaper and it's the best for an AMD system, personally I have one such rig. let's just say the IC7-Max3 is the NF7-S in P4 world, or vise versa.
Originally this board sells for $210, looks to me $30 is a good discount.
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I can't say anything bad about these two boards. I have NF7, IC7 and IS7.
I may ditch the last two MSI boards and replace them with IA7 or IS7-E. Using the IS7 I am able to clock my P4 2A to over 3.3 Ghz with excellent memory bandwidth.
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Hello,
could anyone tell me what the problem
with the MSI boards are,both anandtech and toms hardware had given great reviews for
the MSI-865PE NEO2 FIS2R and the MSI 87P
thanks
Deepan
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We weren't especially knocking MSI boards...just saying these two abit boards are considered by many of us as the best for P4's and AMD's. I run MSI on this machine and it's rock solid, but it does not have anywhere near the configuration options of the abit boards.Skip
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I have been using MSI in the last two years. I like the Live Update feature a lot. The only thing I don't like is that they "short change" in the components particularly in the board power supply, i.e. almost all the boards I've used from MSI have BIOS v/s O/S Vcore drop of about 0.3 to 0.5 volt.
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If you are not a hardcore OCer, MSI boards will suit your needs although you'll have some problems. Take a look here at the common problems people have with these two MSI boards:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/service/forum/board.php?boardid=10&sid=c887d096ddf40566477279fcc4f2a95e
Personally I'm running a MSI 875P with a 2.4C. The specific complaints I have for this board is mostly BIOS related. Either MSI doesn't hire qualified engineers working on their BIOS or those engineers are working too casually to push out new BIOS. The newest V1.8 is just a crap, a huge step back from V1.7. But even in their best release V1.7, you have problems with ICH5 raid 1, memory compatibility and AGP/PCI lock. MSI hasn't figured out the PAT yet on all performance settings, an example is you don't get PAT when using slow mode 1:1. And you cannot reach FSB 250 1:1 which I think is a pity as almost all other 875P can do. Rumor is MSI will come out with a V1.9 but no one knows when it will come out and if it will fix all the know problems. The 865PE is a little better.
You wouldn't want to trust TOM's hardware recommendations if you are a hardcore OCer. Hardware reviewed on that site has been emphasized on the features, accessories and stability at stock settings. (BTW, the review on that Canon D300 camera is irrelevant and invalid. That guy doing the review is definitely not a good photographer.)
So for OCing, Abit boards are the best.
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Ok,
thanks for the replies guys,i dont think
i'll start trying to overclock the new 2.8c or 3.0 which i intend getting initially
because i'm new at this and i'll need to read up,in which case i have one of two options to choose from either the Gigabyte GA-8KNXP or the ASUS P4C800-E deluxe ,although i have been using ASUS mobos so far ,in this case i'm biased towards the GIGABYTE ,i'd thought about the MSI's orginally because of the suposed ease of o/clocking through bios and software and of course the bundled stuff with the MSI's
plus its a lot cheaper...any suggestions ?
Deepan
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I have no idea how good the Gigabyte board is. But I'd go with the P4C800-E. You'll get the accessories and the board is rock solid even with heavy OC. MSI's 875P is not much cheaper. Check the prices on NewEgg.com.
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