Name: johnrhance Date: December 25, 2007 at 07:55:03 Pacific Subject: abit Fatal1ty FP-IN9 won't overcloc OS: vista ultimate 32 CPU/Ram: e2160/2GB G.Skill Model/Manufacturer: abit Fatal1ty FP-IN9 SLI
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I've had this computer for about a week now and it's been working fine for the most part. My main complaint is that I cannot for the life of me get the damn CPU to overclock. If I change the FSB to anything over 200 it won't boot. I don't really know what to change the voltage to so I've tried everything. I might ship my board back to Newegg on Wednesday if I can't get this resolved. I would GREATLY appreciate some advice or insight as to why I can't overclock.
We need more info on the voltages and Frequency's? For instance FSB, CPU Voltage, CPU:RAM ratio, Northbridge, southbridge voltages etc? Merry Xmas 02coled
C2D-E6600ES-8x425-@3.4ghz 1:1 Ram : CPU 2gb Elipedia @ 850mhz EVGA 680i BFG8800GTS-OC 320mb @630-2010 680w Thermaltake Purepower 2 x 250gb Sata2 Vista Home Premium32
You don't know how to overclock so you're gonna send the board back?
- disable SLI memory - set the FSB:memory ratio at 1:1 - lock the PCI-e at 100MHz - raise the FSB from 800MHz QDR to 1066MHz QDR...that'll put the CPU speed at 2.4GHz.
You should have gotten a board based on the Intel P35 chipset or the slightly older P965.
With the Fatal1ty FP-IN9, your E2160 should be able to easily endure a 3GHz - 3.2GHz overclock speed. The question is how are you going about the overclock? Are you using nTune to overclock or are you using the BIOS?
Typically you want to overclock from the BIOS, although, I have had a seen a couple of people achieve successful & stable overclocks via nTune, but it is easier & more reliable to always perform your overclocking through the BIOS.
Now based on reviews of your SLI 650i motherboard: it seems the Northbridge is more stable at 1.35V when overclocking, especially if the FSB is cranked significantly higher than 300MHz. Since you will be aiming for at least 3.2GHz, that puts the FSB (for starters) at 350MHz & above range.
Will you be that lucky? It all depends on the other components (aside from the BIOS) like the type of RAM, PSU & cooling solution, because you may not be able to get that high without resorting to 1.3V - 1.5V CPU voltage. However, I have to state that I did come across a review of the E2160 that showed the CPU bumped from 1.8GHz (200MHz x 9) to 3.33GHz (370MHz x9) using only the stock 1.072V, but then again that was with a P35 based motherboard.
jam already gave you some leads, but below are some more for you to go over. If you need more help, feel free to post back.
Well I went into the bios and tried changing the FSB to 1000 and the multiplier to 9x. I moved the voltage all the way up to 1.45 volts and it still wouldn't work. I hit F10 to save and exit. The computer shuts down, and that's it. It won't reboot or anything until I reset the cmos. I took a picture just now with cpu-z: http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/...
It's showing my multiplier as 6x and my core speed as 1.6mhz. What is the problem here?
Now that I opened up Steam, I checked cpu-z again. Now it shows it at 1.8mhz with a 9x multiplier. I guess some type of power saving option is turned on somewhere.
I just found a thread on another forum talking about how a certain Bios update cause automatic C1E halting meaning it reduces CPU speed and previous Bios versions had not worked and so in a certain version they forced it so that it wouldn't do anything but. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/ma... May work going to earlier Bios version 02coled
C2D-E6600ES-8x425-@3.4ghz 1:1 Ram : CPU 2gb Elipedia @ 850mhz EVGA 680i BFG8800GTS-OC 320mb @630-2010 680w Thermaltake Purepower 2 x 250gb Sata2 Vista Home Premium32
"Well I went into the bios and tried changing the FSB to 1000 and the multiplier to 9x."
You don't just jack up the FSB arbitrarily & FYI, there isn't any CPU that is clocked at 9000MHz or 9GHz. You might want to read the links posted to familiarize yourself with the fundamentals of overclocking.
I've read all the links that have been posted in this topic, and I've been reading on this subject for a while now. That's why I'm here asking for help.
Phew! You got me fooled back there for a second. With QDR, the 1000MHz FSB is no longer alarming. You definitely ought to be able to overclock that CPU enough to get a significant performance boost.
As far as the other issue, I don't know about the BIOS version throttling the CPU clock, but if there's any substance to that speculation -- you had better research it a little more indepth & make sure you do not have that version when you are overclocking the machine.
well it might be a 'wrong turn' here but i have read most OC posts here for a while as my attempts didnt work so having read yours here i commiserate , any way i nearly bought FP-IN9 SLIa few month ago but had enough £s to buy the gigabyte N680sliDQ6 as it was supposed to do wonders. It didnt. it wont run at 400 only 266 (1066) on a E6600, i'd kept this link
may be some use to you. just reading it now i noticed this http://www.virtual-hideout.net/revi... thay leave all the voltages etc at auto (suits me), so for a laugh ran my set up the same hey voila now at fsb 1333 9x 333 (3000) have to run super pi and cpuz to get the correct result core reported @1.37 v fsb:dram says 5:8 (er whatever) it works. May be jam can explain this on another thread if you may plz, does it really make a difference? 1:1
A FSB:DRAM ratio of 5:8 implies, your RAM is clocked higher -- frequency-wise -- than your CPU bus is.
At 333MHz (1333MHz effective) for the CPU, you would normally need to have the RAM running at 333MHz (DDR2 667MHz) for the two to be synchronous or at 1:1 ratio.
Therefore, you currently have the CPU bus running at 333MHz while the RAM is set to run at 533MHz (DDR2 1066MHz) -- 333:533 = 5:8 ;-)
As far as the difference between 1:1 & 5:8 (1:1.6), you should not expect a performance hit from running your RAM faster than the CPU, even though the recommended setting for optimal performance is typically 1:1 & this is because your processor will feed data to the memory controller at its own stock or overclocked speed.
Interestingly, a handful of benchmarks have been published that suggest that the higher bandwidth from running the RAM faster than the CPU makes the machine overall potentially faster. But in reality, those theoretical variance have not translated to noticeable real-time gain on such systems.
So, while you may not detect any benefit from running the RAM faster than your CPU, A performance hit is usually an issue if the asynchronous ratio was the other way around.
I give up. I've tried every combination of settings possible. It just isn't going to work. I RMA'd the board and I'm shipping it back to Newegg Monday morning. I'm getting the P35-DS3L.
thanks for the great explanation, the 1:1.6 ratio suprised me as i didnt think a pc would work properly with odd numbers I got confused with the pc#### vs the MHz rating formats and the quad QDDR rating bah!. 667 mhz ram that would im told lower the max available band width? so it would work as 1:1 but lose some on the data through put? Is there a higher memory spec that would do the same ive heard theres a new ddr2 spec out, or would a better rated cpu gain the elusive 1:1
Having seen the prices here drop alarmingly in the last few months pc8500 i bought on ebay.com for $135 was here £170, its now £40 2 gig and the first Amd phenom now available, the New year may be a good time to move up a cpu i'll stick with intel & this mobo for now seem theres plenty of legs in it.
I must admit moving from an amd platform 8 months ago has been confusing & the gigabyte bios is aweful.
Thanks!
johnrhance that mobo is rated as a good Oc'r , Giga have a nasty habit of releasing rev 1 rev2 in quick succession as i found out, so check which one you get.
If I was you, I wouldn't worry too much about forcefully downclocking the RAM frequency so as to match the CPU's so as to establish a "sync" ratio. Because as is -- you are not taking a performance hit from running it faster than the CPU bus.
About the new DDR2 spec, I am not sure I understand what you mean by that. But my speculation is that you maybe talking about DDR2 memory that scale -- stock or overclocked -- beyond 400MHz (DDR2 800MHz). As we all know, virtually all enthusiast-targeted memory will do this. Where things get murky is when you throw JEDEC approved standards in the mix.
Much like many other folks, you'll likely get a giggle too from JEDEC's datasheet. Officially, the committee's classification for ratified DDR memory standards are as follows:
As you can see from the above, there isn't officially a DDR2-1066 (533MHz) ratification, but there is a DDR3-1066 (533MHz). Your being able to run those memory modules at that frequency does not imply that you have a "new ddr2 spec" memory, all this means is that you have a set of cherry-picked DDR2 memory modules -- that after the manufacturer's rigorous testing have been shown -- quite capable of working at data rates of 800MHz-1066MHz & possibly beyond that .... who knows.
Although, I am not sure what brand of memory you've got, but I would not be surprised if it is something from OCZ, Patriot or Corsair enthusiast lineup ..... LOL
I think I better stop here before the OP in this thread gets mad from you hijacking his thread & seemingly getting away with it ;-)
On a whim, it is easier to attribute your not being able to fix this to PEBKAC & it still can't be ruled out, but I have personally thrown in the towel on more than one or two computer issues myself, so I think I know just how you are feeling .... LOL!
Most likely, it is something I'm doing wrong, but since no one (including myself) can figure it out, maybe I'll have more luck with the DS3L. My Fatal1ty board is in the box right now and if the UPS store is open Monday morning I'm shipping it away :)
Granted that most mainstream CPU's spend 95% of their lifespan in idle mode: you probably should keep the motherboard. After all, it is compliant with your CPU & it supports the CPU's stock clock speed without any qualms.
It is not like your machine is disadvantaged by your not being able overclock it. Heck, at 1.8GHz (stock) your E2160 should perform virtually identical to my E4300 except for the 1MB additional cache on the E4300.
Even if I do get some of that extra oomph! from my E4300 due to its current overclock speed of 3.2GHz (355 x 9), at the end of the day: my CPU is most likely to have sat through about the same wasted CPU cycle that your 1.8GHz did. Who knows .... you may even be fortunate enough to successfully overclock the CPU the next time you decide to give the exercise another go ;-)
Ultimately, the decision to follow through with the CPU RMA is totally your call. But don't expect to be compensated for the return shipping & lost time/productivity as a result of the RMA process.
Hi last post here hehe thanks John for the hijack lol, my op pretty much died a death last month along with my bios hdd dvdrw... that was a £500 brick! re: P35-DS3L i dug out last months custompc mag where they ran a 'labs test' on it http://www.custompc.co.uk/labs/1379...
why i buy this mag when its on the web is another mystery.
Small digression, i tried to fit a large hsf on my own mobo , thermalright ultra a big dude of a hsf, much fun and games later it fits but i notice the P3x hasnt got copper cooling heatsinks plastered all around the board, so i would consider extra cooling if your OCing as the article suggest the vrms'? get toasty, my vrm 680i run at 60C, nice this time of year.
Sabertooth a grand explanation, yes im on darkside of the jdec spec (OCZ pc8500 ddr2) so somewhere ahead of the ddr2 table, it was a 'buy it now' & a guy in Charlotte US came up tops, excelent value for money.
All being well it stays at this spec till the new year.
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