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3ghz P4 showing as 2 seperate CPUs?

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Name: Dazzuko
Date: December 27, 2004 at 13:07:44 Pacific
OS: Win XP Corp
CPU/Ram: 3ghz P4 1mb L2 Cache HT.
Comment:

Hi there,

I've built my computer, all is running fine but its just started showing my 3ghz P4 as two seperate 1.5ghz processors instead of 1 3ghz one!?

Anyone know what would cause this and how to get it back to normal?

Thanks :)

Daniel.



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Response Number 1
Name: hapeekrapee
Date: December 27, 2004 at 14:07:44 Pacific
Reply:

Does the processor support Hyper-Threading? That could be a clue. The concept of it is to act as if there were two CPU's instead of one. You can disable it via BIOS. You don't need it enabled for the most part unless you do graphic intensive programing.



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Response Number 2
Name: ComputerDude929
Date: December 28, 2004 at 04:38:36 Pacific
Reply:

"You don't need it enabled for the most part unless you do graphic intensive programing."

However, it doesn't hurt to leave it on as it will help when you are doing several things at once, well thats the theory anyway.

Computer nut since 1985 and still loving it...


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Response Number 3
Name: lazyman
Date: December 28, 2004 at 08:00:13 Pacific
Reply:

1) HyperThread shows 2 CPUs the same speed as 1. i.e. P4 3Ghz has two CPUs at 3 Ghz each.

2) HT should be enable at all time; there is no logic in not to after you paid for the feature.


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Response Number 4
Name: GaryM
Date: December 29, 2004 at 05:11:14 Pacific
Reply:

Dazzuko. On bootup to post you should see 'Hyper threading enabeled'. This will let you know wether or not you have the feature selected in the BIOS.

It sounds like this but the fact that it's devied your CPU into 2 is a bit of a mystery.

As lazyman stated, whatever the speed of your CPU is multiplied by two although this isn't acually what is happening because your CPU would go up in ashes. Hyperthreading tricks your PC into thinking it has two CPU's and utilises it as if it were a dual CPU system.

Check your bios first. Look under Hyperthreading, there may be some function there that we're all unaware of.

Let us know how you get on.

GaryM


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Response Number 5
Name: Kailas
Date: December 29, 2004 at 10:22:42 Pacific
Reply:

Doesn't HT benefit only if applications are written to use it?
HT does not necessarily mean better performance.


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Response Number 6
Name: GaryM
Date: December 30, 2004 at 01:42:57 Pacific
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This is one of those subjects where yo think "Do I, or don't I' The point is, it won't decrease performance with it switched on and you probably won't know if or when it is using it so you might as well leave it on if your PC can do it.

There is loads of documentation the MS website about this and I did read it some time ago but off the top of my head I can't recall anything about splitting processor speed in half.

GaryM

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Response Number 7
Name: hapeekrapee
Date: January 1, 2005 at 17:51:01 Pacific
Reply:

While leaving the HT enabled seems logical, it actually hampers performance of demanding single thread apps. Most notably if you play any 3D gaming. The apps that utilize the feature are mostly graphic design programs such as photoshop, quark, dreamweaver and illistrator because they use multi-threading. Even premier can benefit from it. More common programs do not and they will suffer in performance with HT enabled.


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Response Number 8
Name: Cobra_R
Date: January 3, 2005 at 22:12:47 Pacific
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Intel states that H/T can be used in more then one area besides using it for programs that take advantage of multi-threading. H/T can also be used for multi-tasking purposes like running 2 or 3 non-multi threading programs at once, you won't see a bog down in preformance like you would with a single threading processor. Lab testing websites had a few examples of how normal applications can take advatange of H/T like having windows media player run while playing an online gamne and an IM running in the background. vs a processor the didn't have H/T.


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Response Number 9
Name: pheonix991
Date: January 12, 2005 at 18:43:04 Pacific
Reply:

h/t only works if u have win xp, i don't know about linux


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