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12v Rail on PSU???

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Name: snoopy104
Date: July 30, 2004 at 18:18:18 Pacific
OS: XP
CPU/Ram: N/A
Comment:

I've just bought a new power supply, it was a cheap one rated to 600W (Probably not accurate). My previous 350W PSU that came with my case kept shutting down when I turned my Aero7 up to full speed??.
I noticed that in the reviews people were talking about a low voltage on the 12v rail. Currenty mine reads about 11.64v is this Ok? What's the significance of the 12v rail anyway??

Thanks.

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Response Number 1
Name: angrymen2001
Date: July 30, 2004 at 19:43:55 Pacific
Reply:

The significance is everything that runs at 12 Volts (someone more knowledgable than me will probably tell you what runs on 12 Volts) As far as the 11.64, I would say you're probably ok as it's within 10% of 12 Volts. More expensive PS would have better regulators though.

When all else fails beat the $%!* out of it!!!


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Response Number 2
Name: lazyman
Date: July 30, 2004 at 22:23:23 Pacific
Reply:

+/-5% is acceptable; 12V rail should not fall below 11.4.

AXP depends more on 5 V; while P4 depends on 12V rail.

Most PSU specs/wattage don't add up.

Label from Thermaltake 480
18A 12V = 18x12= 216 Watt
40A 5V = 200
30A 3.3V = 99
-5V@0.3A = -1.5
-12V@0.8A = -9.6
Total = 503 Watts

Label from COOLMAX 400W
+3.3V@30A = 99
+5V@40A = 200
-5V@1A = -5
+12V@18A = 216
-12V@1A = -12
+5VSB@2.5A = 12.5
Total = 510.5 Watts

Antec 550
+3.3V@32A = 105.6
+5V@40A = 200
-5V@0.5A = -2.5
+12V@24A = 288
-12V@1A; = -12
+5VSB@2A = 10
Total = 589

The Coolmax is way off. Stay with name brand stands a better chance.



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Response Number 3
Name: jam
Date: July 31, 2004 at 06:58:57 Pacific
Reply:

I think you're confusing voltage & amperage. The voltage will flucuate a bit & as lazyman & angrymen2001 pointed out, a 5-10% tolerance is considered acceptable.

What you need is amperage on that +12v rail...18 amps or more.

Have a look at what I wrote here in response 3...the links provided will help explain:

http://www.computing.net/hardware/wwwboard/forum/27646.html


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Response Number 4
Name: giggles
Date: August 1, 2004 at 10:36:50 Pacific
Reply:

i wrote this last week under a different thread:

"high quality means big and beefy, if nothing else pick it up and feel how heavy it is the heavier the better
you want big capacitors, heatsinks, coils
and high quality componets such as fans that last a long time

if you arent buying from a store and thus cannot pick it up then you will have to go for the trusted name brands like Antec, PC power and cooling, and Enermax
but generally go for these brands anyway

another important thing you need to kno is how much juice it has to putout, AND THIS DOES NOT MEAN GET THE 550 WATT OVER THE 400WATT
this number is not very significant
look for the numbers in amps under the rails

there's 3 rails you need to look at +3.3v the +5v and the +12v

nearly all psu's will give you more than generous amounts of amps under the +3.3v and +5v rails and thats just great but they usually screw you on the most IMPORTANT RAIL THE ONE THAT YOUR CPU RUNS ON, +12V

IT MUST HAVE AT LEAST 18 AMPS TO WORK WITH MODERN CPUS
THE MORE THE BETTER"

what is painfully obvious to one person might be just painful to the other


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Response Number 5
Name: jam
Date: August 1, 2004 at 12:00:05 Pacific
Reply:

Well put, my queen ;)


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Response Number 6
Name: giggles
Date: August 1, 2004 at 13:08:48 Pacific
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again, Jam, im the King!

what is painfully obvious to one person might be just painful to the other


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