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Name: BeosRuls
Date: June 4, 2002 at 13:45:35 Pacific
Subject: to BE or not to BE that is the question
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any know whats hapenning with BeOS ?
I head they sold to palm

are they going to make anymore releases ?
Beos5 is good but there are lots of stuff it dose not support

like a lot of new hardware and it dose not support a lot of internet protacalls
(chap been one of them)


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Response Number 1
Name: Andrew ordo
Date: June 4, 2002 at 14:48:18 Pacific
Subject: to BE or not to BE that is the question
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The following is a simplified account of the situation as I understand it:


Be, Inc. sold the bulk of their intellectual property (including BeOS and BeIA) to Palm, Inc. Be, Inc. now exists purely as a business entity with a board of directors and no employees.

Be, Inc. has filed a lawsuit against Microsoft, charging that Microsoft is a monopoly whose anti-competitive, monopolistic practices prevented them (and any other competition) from being able to compete in the OS market. While this is probably true, I personally suspect that mis-management and a few stupid decisions may have contributed significantly to Be's demise.

Be's domain name has gone up for sale.

Bids have been made to license or outright buy BeOS from Palm have met without success. Palm has indicated that they have no intention to sell BeOS, support BeOS, continue development for BeOS, license BeOS to another party, or sell BeOS.

The BeBits Store has closed down, citing loss of interest and a high number of chargebacks.

Gobe no longer sells BeOS and future releases of Products are apparently going to be available for Windows but not BeOS.

Companies that promised (and made official announcements complete with release dates!) BeOS versions of their products have cancelled them.

Yellow Tab is no more.

BeOS source code has allegedly leaked, but apparently, no one has actually seen it.

A pre-release, in-development version of BeOS, 1.5d0 Exp/Dano was leaked, giving us some idea of the BeOS that might have been. (Quite sad, really.)

There's a lot of speculation on what's going to happen next. Theories abound.

If you really want to know what's happened and what's going on, a quick search using Google, Altavista, or some other search engine can quickly turn up the whole story. There have been loads of articles, press releases, etc. about it.

It's all such a disgusting, stupid thing to happen. Finally, a modern operating system that actually WORKS and the promise of annoyance-free computing (for me, anyway), and THIS had to happen.


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Response Number 2
Name: Andrew Ordo
Date: June 4, 2002 at 14:52:57 Pacific
Subject: to BE or not to BE that is the question
Reply: (edit)

By the way, I don't guarantee that all the information in my previous post is technically correct in every way. Some details may be inaccurate.


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Response Number 3
Name: beosruls
Date: June 4, 2002 at 16:13:27 Pacific
Subject: to BE or not to BE that is the question
Reply: (edit)

wow tnx for all the info

It makes me think why would palm buy BeOS just to say we are not going to work on it anymore.. ?

I got a Conspiracy theroy :)
Microsoft paid palm to buy BE so MS dont have to compete anymore ...


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Response Number 4
Name: Beosruls
Date: June 4, 2002 at 16:47:34 Pacific
Subject: to BE or not to BE that is the question
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http://forums.begroovy.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2424
I took your advice and had a search

looks like the source has been leeked
also theres a leeked beta Iso online as well


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Response Number 5
Name: Beosruls
Date: June 4, 2002 at 16:51:54 Pacific
Subject: to BE or not to BE that is the question
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also looks like palm dont want to licence the beos code they dont want to make any beos updates and they dont do beos support

So they just blown 7 milion(or something) for nothing

maybe so they dont have to decalare as much to the tax man :D

also a bit of talk about the source code leek
Its obiusly been leek`d by a Mad member of the BeOS staff
who else has access to it


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Response Number 6
Name: Andrew Ordo
Date: June 4, 2002 at 17:17:15 Pacific
Subject: to BE or not to BE that is the question
Reply: (edit)

Isn't it all kinda screwy?


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Response Number 7
Name: BeOSruls
Date: June 4, 2002 at 19:24:22 Pacific
Subject: to BE or not to BE that is the question
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yea :)

I just dont understand why palm would buy such a Great OS and then do nothing with it

I have tryed a lot of Os`s and I think Beos is the best one alot better than Linux and windows

I hope they do make a new BeOS


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Response Number 8
Name: jefro
Date: June 5, 2002 at 15:19:06 Pacific
Subject: to BE or not to BE that is the question
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Write a polite letter to Palm and ask them to open source the BeOS source code. It would benefit all of use and save time to the OpenBeOS people who will in time recreate it anyway. Palm has money troubles and can't get involved in too many projects. The price for Be was a steal if they can use it on their Palm devices. They don't have any reason to hold on to the desktop portion unless they want to use it more fully than we think on the mobile market.


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Response Number 9
Name: Bob
Date: June 10, 2002 at 21:54:12 Pacific
Subject: to BE or not to BE that is the question
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The best hope for the future of BeOS is not Palm. Their emphasis is their handhelp computers with no time or resources for developing a PC operating system. It is possible that some of the BeOS code will end up in handheld machines, but I doubt it. I think they paid for the human resources at BeOS, and weren't interested in anything else.

There is a group of developers re-writing (or cloning) the Be Operating System from scratch. While I expect a final release to be years away, they do make progress announcements ocassionally. This effort is called Open BeOS (OBOS) for now. A Google search will get you a lot more info about this.

Later
-Bob


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Response Number 10
Name: Anonymous Guy
Date: July 25, 2002 at 01:45:33 Pacific
Subject: to BE or not to BE that is the question
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Not sure if anyone's reading this thread..

I have yet to see anyone come up with this possiblity: What if Be, Inc. sold BeOS to Palm just to get their hands untied? Meaning that Palm did Be a favor, likely for future embedded work, and that they're *planning* and *will* sell BeOS back to the original owner after the suit with M$ has reached it's final conclusion?
In selling it (on a temporary basis basically) to Palm, Be, Inc has preserved the OS from being sold to and thereby getting completely screwed up.


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