Hi all i have an urgent problem. yester day i installed soundblaster live! drivers and the other thing you need that goes with the kit from bebits.com and talkback from bebits.com now each time it loads up to the os, then a kernel debuggin thing comes up and freezes. the things that cause it are: Threads: -idlethread1 -net_server -input_server -sh before (about 2 days ago) it only used to cycle between net_server and media_server and about 1-3 boots could make it on. BTW deskbar is always always crashing. isit that i am so bad with beos that i killed it or isit some virus or something? is the only way out to format and resart? :( thanks

You might try to start with safe mode options. Use spacebar when you see "Loading...." Select something like user add-ons disable and really any or all of the safe mode options might help. Then try to undo what you installed. Now as to why it is unstable I might do a reload. Depends on if you have the R5.03 version. Then you don't have to exactly do a reload only a cut and paste from the mounted CD. The other reasons it might be unstable is you have too fast of bios selections. You might need to use default or fail safe settings. Also I know this to be a good tip, get the best IDE cables.

oh boy, thanks jefro. safe mode works. i uninstalled the stuff but now i am getting the kernel debug land still, media_server_addon thread and network_server thread that comes up the most now. a cant find an uninstall for media. as for the network server when it sais it encounters a problem and will be shut down, i know the internet works. when it doesnt pop up then it doesnt work. why is this? i have dhcp client and there is no release + renew for beos. each time i swicth network cards the modem screws up (because i cannot release) and i have to call support for them to add in the new max address for the card and delete the old one. would you like me to do anything more? i am really beginner with beos but i can follow good instructions.

Then lets start over. What version exactly do you have? Is it a burned copy or pressed one? Might post a bit more on your computer too. Did you speed it up in bios? Ram and cpu look ok, some Pheonix (sp?) bios's are very bad. Did it ever work well in beos?

k what it was was an hp bios oem board that i had to get hot-flashed from another board to turn it into an asus bios. it had the winbond W9C020-90 bios that had built in protected boot block and the board has no jumpers for bios update only in bios but the hp bios didnt have the option. then you could only do a hot-flash with it. so i did and it works great. so today i just did a back up of some files and zero-sectored and reloaded. then i installed beos but figured out that it cannot get installed on a MATROX G400 dual-head . what it does is it gets up to the introduction pop-up window and when you click okay it reboots. this is only in safe mode install. in normal install it goes to the end of the startup icons then locks up. so i switched to a 3dfx vodoo 16mb and it seems to intsall good on it. i have SST mpf bios chip from an asus-p5a that was used to flash. it is an award bios. the beos version is the newest one you can download. this is what i wrote on the cd: BeOS5PEMaxEditionV3 the only thing thats wrong now is that Deskbar always crashes (not kernel debug, pop-up window) about 1 in 2 boots and i can also make it crash by left clicking on the media speaker thing sometimes. sometimes it crashes other times not. is this common, can i get a fix for this. after this im going to install sound card drivers from bebits.com and also divx codecs, and a firewall . i dont know the reason why beos would do this but when its idle i can see on my router that it is accessing the net all the time. so is there something like zonealarm for beos? thanks jefro. ps after im going to blast everything in the bios to go to max speed then do memtest86 overnight.

BeOS doesn't like overclocked bios's nor does it like poor quality ide cables. You need to have fail-safe or default bios settings and use good quality and high speed ide cables. Now as to a non-stock bios I couldn't guess. All devices must report as what they actually are. I can't say if you have a good copy of max. There is a md5checksum but I can't say that it would help testing the entire CD. That value is for the file only. I would start with the Developers Edition. I like the max idea but I found the DE to be better. Get and burn that and load it. Then use max to install the apps and stuff. There is also a phos beta 6 soon to be out to try.

I've had that problem a lot recently with the BeOS Max 3x beta..no problem with DevEd (and probably the older stable release of Max)..there's just too many user addons in the new Max release for me 'ol poor pentium to withstand....