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Name: skooter
Date: May 22, 2002 at 05:30:35 Pacific
Subject: Network not working
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i have a linksys router, with @home broadband, the IP is dynamic from the cable modem, i have the router on DHCP, i have a 3com network card on my computer, it detects the card and i set all the settings to auto detect IP, i put in the DNS's and the connection says ready, i even hit the restart connection and it still says ready. If i goto the browser i will not be able to load a page. i tried to take the router off dchp and assign an IP, with the same results. is there anything else i need to do to get the internet working?? please help


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Response Number 1
Name: jefro
Date: May 22, 2002 at 14:29:49 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

http://www.linksys.com/support/default.asp
That is the first place to start. We need to know much more informantion too.
beos?
which router? product#?
did it ever work under any config or OS?



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Response Number 2
Name: Gerhard Fischer
Date: May 30, 2002 at 20:24:15 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Ah - finally!

After 3 hours search I found somebody with
the exact same problem :-)

For the record:
NIC: 3COM EtherLink 10.100
PCI 3C905C-TX (HW Rev. 048)
Router: LINKSYS BEFSR411,
Firmware Rev. 1.42.7, Apr. 2002
Cable Modem: Motorola Surfboard,
Software Version:
SB4100-4.0.9-SCM07-NOSHELL-BA
Provider: AT&T Broadband (aka. Roadrunner)

(remark: had a LINKSYS NIC before, and
switched to the _much_more_
expensive 3COM due to BeOS ;-)

I had BeOS 5.0.3 up & running (i.e. connected
to the Internet) when I had the NIC directly
connected to the Cable modem. After adding
the Cable Router it failed. Unfortunately
the LINKSYS web site doesn't provide _any_
information regarding BeOS :-|

When using DHCP I cannot even connect to the
router itself (192.168.192.168, in my case).
When assigning an IP address manually (i.e.
192.168.192.169) and entering the router's
IP address (192.168.192.168) as a gateway at
least I can connect to the router itself -
means accessing the router's internal setup,
but still I do not get any connection to the
Internet.

To answer the final question - the router works
fine under Windows 98 SE, SuSE LINUX 7.1 and
Redhat Linux 6.0 Solaris never managed to
recognize my Adaptec 2940 U2W, and I didn't
bother to patch the mini root - so I can't
say about that.

The command "netstat -a" shows the following
(after consulting the router's web interface):

packets 1 total size 1514
allocs 94 mallocs 29 reallocs 124
0: 192.168.192.168 netmask 255.255.255.0
1: 0.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0
2: 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0

which looks perfectly cool to me.

When switching to DHCP the following shows
(after timing out on the router's web if.)

packets 1 total size 1514
allocs 1 mallocs 0 reallocs 1
0: 0.0.0.243 netmask 255.255.255.0
1: 0.0.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0
2: 127.0.0.1 netmask 255.0.0.0

Also, God bless the developer for the
following message (when attemting to print
a page from the browser):

"The selected printer is not compatible
with this release of the EPSON driver.
You must add a new printer or select
annother one, then try again.

Then why does it let me install my
Epson Stylus Color 850 just fine, if
it's not compatible? ;-)

Hope that helps in nailing down the problem.
If not then I'll be more than glad to
provide additional information - I'm still
convinced that BeOS is the very best that
Intel hardware has ever seen (silent prayer
for the BeBox :-)

Looking forward for any response,
Fidschi



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Response Number 3
Name: Peter
Date: June 5, 2002 at 19:42:05 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Same problem, Earthlink DSL, 3com 905x NIC, Linksys Router BEFSR41 Firmware 1.42.6. The BeOS machine is the second computer on the switch. DHCP is enabled.
The other machine works fine, and although the "Network" settings panel in Be detects the NIC, and says it is "ready", no response when I ping the router/switch. Network is "unreachable". No joy on the browser.
Any help on the settings I should use, including Domain name, Host name, DNS info? Sorry, a newbie to networking.


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Response Number 4
Name: Gerhard Fischer
Date: June 16, 2002 at 20:49:33 Pacific
Reply: (edit)


Folks,

I finally made it work. I can't say for sure _how_ I did
it (there's just a silent suspicion that BeOS uses the
MAC address as well), but I'll list all the steps that I
took - so in theory you should end up with a working
Internet connection for BeOS as well. Still this is to
be considered as a workaround, not a solution.

I'm writing that in a "Newbie" style, so everyone can
follow the instructions. Sorry for boring the others ;-)

You'll need some information ready for that:

- the MAC (Medium Access Control) address of your NIC
(Network Interface Card). Looks similar to something
like e.g. 00-01-02-4b-37-aa
You can find it using Windows as follows:
[Start] [Run]winipcfg[enter], and then selecting
your NIC

- the IP address of your Router
(in the Web based Setup menu of the router, it's under
[Setup], line "(Device IP Address)". The value should be
something like e.g. 192.168.192.aaa (aaa is a number
between 1 and 254).

- also from the Routers menu, under [DHCP]:
the value from "Starting IP Address" (something like
192.168.192.bbb (bbb is a number between 1 and 254)

- and from the same page the value for "Number of DHCP
Users" (something around 50); let's call it ccc for now.

So, the valid address range your Router can assign is
within 192.168.192.bbb to 192.168.192.(bbb +ccc -1),
except the number for the router itself (192.168.192.aaa).

First of all, I called AT&T and asked them to (re)enter the
MAC address of my NIC. That's what AT&T (or your Internet
service provider) needs to enter so your cable modem
recognizes your NIC.
Interesting though, AT&T keeps a record of all MAC addresses
you ever report them. So they still had my NIC on file. The
change was done within 5minutes, restarting the cable modem
took annother 30seconds ... almost "on the fly".

Remark: Using the direct connection from the Cable Modem to
the NIC works fine with BeOS right away. But actually we want
to use the LinkSys Router, right?

Next step is to use the "MAC cloning" functionality of the
Router. This can be found in the Router Setup mask using
[Advanced][MAC Addr. Clone]. There you have to enter the MAC
address of your own NIC. In case you do not have that feature
in your current Router Setup mask you need to download the
latest version of the Router Firmware. In case you don't know
how to, just drop me a line.

After that I rebooted BeOS. Might be sufficient to restart
Networking, but I come from the "old OS world". As before,
BeOS didn't establish an Internet connection.

Now I did the following:

1.) setting the Networking preferences to DHCP:
(left upper corner) [BeOS] [preferences] [Network]
select your NIC
[Settings]
mark the line that says "Obtain settings automatically
(DHCP)"
[Done] [Save] [Restart Networking]
Close the Networking application (otherwise it dies
occasionally)

2.) Start the Networking preferences again:
(left upper corner) [BeOS] [preferences] [Network]

After that I had some rudimentary entries.
E.g.
IP address: 0.0.0.243 (nonsense)
Domainname: mn.ipsvc.net (correct)
Primary DNS: 24.31.3.8 (correct)
Secondary DNS: 24.31.3.9 (correct)

Remark: Obviously AT&T isn't aware that putting both
DNS server into the same network segment is
a severe security issue. MSN stumbled about
the exact same misconfiguration about some-
thing like a half year ago ;-)

3.) select your NIC
[Settings]
mark the line that says "Specify settings"

Now enter the following parameter:

IP Address: any of the addresses that your Router
is capable of assigning (remember the above mentioned
range of 192.168.192.bbb to 192.168.192.(bbb +ccc -1))

Subnet mask: enter 255.255.255.0
Gateway: enter the IP address of your Router
(e.g. 192.168.192.aaa, the one from noted above)

Again, [Done] [Save] [Restart Networking]

In my case that was it. Internet access worked just
fine.

Good luck,
Fidschi


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