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kernel debugging land

Original Message
Name: Mike
Date: June 18, 2002 at 23:06:56 Pacific
Subject: kernel debugging land
Comment:
I got the BeOS 5 Pro CD and I run win2k. I made the bootdisk and rebooted. So then I hopefully can somehow install BeOs on this way BUT, every time I boot either from the bootdisk or from the CD-ROM I'm redirected to the f---in "Kernel debugging land". How can I stop it...and how could there be a kernel if I haven't had installed BeOS yet ?

Please help me...

thanx

Mike


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Response Number 1
Name: jefro
Date: June 19, 2002 at 08:31:55 Pacific
Subject: kernel debugging land
Reply: (edit)

A few things there.
Did you install the full pro or the personal
editon. I think you are trying to use the
PartitionMagic and then it crashes?
I suspect that you installed the PE version(tellus)
and you have a P4?
Do you have a Pentium4 1-1.5g?
Did you format the W2K in NTFS?


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Response Number 2
Name: Andrew Ordo
Date: June 20, 2002 at 04:50:52 Pacific
Subject: kernel debugging land
Reply: (edit)
The BeOS kernel loads as part of the boot process.

Post some information about your system, in particular:

* CPU
* Amount of RAM installed
* Motherboard chipset
* SCSI host adapter (if applicable)


There is a much mis-understood but documented issue with AMD processors based on the Palomino core. There's more than one solution to this; one in the form of a BIOS update provided by some motherboard mmanufacturers (it's a motherboard BIOS patch that masks a CPU design issue) and another in the form of an OS patch available from BeBits.

There is also an issue that could cause disk cache to get so big that kernel can't resize the kernel_heap, causing the sort of crash you described. (kernel_heap collides with vm_heap, there's no more space for kernel_heap, etc.)

There are three factors that affect the size of the disk cache:

* Block size
* The number of blocks
* The amount of system RAM
* The disk_cache_size value (if any)
specified in
/boot/home/config/settings/kernel/drivers

If you have enough RAM, this can cause the disk cache to get too big even with relatively small block sizes and relatively few blocks. There's a simple solution to this, however.

Tell us what hardware you're working with and we'll likely be able to figure out what's going on. (I bet it's that wacky Palomino core!)


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Response Number 3
Name: Scott
Date: June 25, 2002 at 07:28:35 Pacific
Subject: kernel debugging land
Reply: (edit)
I'm having the same problem as Mike. I downloaded BeOS Personal 5.0.1 from bebits and i'm getting the kernel debugging land messeges.

I'm running a Sony Vaio w/
1.3ghz Pentium 4
128MB RAM
60GB IDE Hard Drive partitioned into 15GB (C:\) and 45GB (D:\) (with BeOS being on the 15GB C: partition)
Windows XP Professional

any help would be appreciated


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Response Number 4
Name: jefro
Date: June 25, 2002 at 15:07:11 Pacific
Subject: kernel debugging land
Reply: (edit)
scott,
I must guess that you used a fat partiton for your xp install? Or maybe a beos only partition? There was a post somewhere about if PE could run on it's own partition of some machines (some bug to only a few machines) but I don't know where I read it.
When you boot to beos press the spacebar at "loading..." and choose the "don't call bios" option. Or choose all safemode options. See if it works then. If not then you will need to obtain a patch for some P4's 1-1.5g (about)

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Response Number 5
Name: Scott
Date: June 25, 2002 at 15:44:10 Pacific
Subject: kernel debugging land
Reply: (edit)
Yes, i'm using a FAT32 partition with BeOS on the same partition as XP Professional. I tried loading the "Dont call BIOS" option as well as selecting all of them. It still puts me in Kernel Debugger Land.

Do you happen to know where i could download the needed patch? i couldnt find it on bebits.

thanks for your help. :)


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Response Number 6
Name: jefro
Date: June 28, 2002 at 13:57:18 Pacific
Subject: kernel debugging land
Reply: (edit)
Problem is you need a working beos to put in the patch. I suggest that you order a R4 beos from Purplus.com for $8. then get the patch here. ORRR You could also use a R4.5 and some have said the beosonline developers edition works alread. Easy instructions on site.
Try here
http://beos.home.lt/
look for 301kb. notice other goodies too.

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