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It is good to be free!

Original Message
Name: jefro
Date: July 4, 2002 at 13:46:25 Pacific
Subject: It is good to be free!
Comment:
If you ain't if a free country, make your's free. If you are in a free country, KEEP it that way.
God Bless America!


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Response Number 1
Name: Steve
Date: July 4, 2002 at 16:09:59 Pacific
Subject: It is good to be free!
Reply: (edit)
I love and live in the US, and always have. But can't we have patriotism without the religious overtones? Mixing religion with patriotism is a left-over from the McCarthy period - creating an atmosphere of us vs. them (United States vs Soviet Union). It was against the spirit and wording of the Consitition of the Unites States then, and it still is now. Why are so many people still doing it?

P.S. Lee Greenwood sucks!


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Response Number 2
Name: jefro
Date: July 4, 2002 at 19:04:02 Pacific
Subject: It is good to be free!
Reply: (edit)
Do you mean this?

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,

or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances"


I did not prohibit any religion nor infringe on yours. I only asked for God to bless America. If you have a God then fine. If you do not that is fine. This is America and I respect your right to choose.


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Response Number 3
Name: ceo_mr_man
Date: July 6, 2002 at 01:00:13 Pacific
Subject: It is good to be free!
Reply: (edit)
I agree with jefro. Steve, you are entirely wrong to assume that saying "God Bless America" is anything but an exercise of that which makes America great. Furthermore, the spirit of the Constitution is profoundly Christian. I am not praising or condemning this fact. The founders knew so completely that everyone reading their document would look at it with a Christian viewpoint that it was totally unnecassary to constantly make reference to that fact. The Christian message (I'm sorry, Judeo-Christian is more accurate) of the founders of the US was indeed emphasized during the Cold War. This emphasis was sudenly required because for the first time in history, begining with the Nazis, we faced strong opponents that hated and persecuted our faith. It became important for America to differentiate itself on the most important mark of culture and society, that is, its faith in God and sense of the divine nature of humanity, in stark contrast to the hubris of the communists, who needed no God, no divinity, no power above themselves to do what needed to be done. That may in part explain why they murdered tens of millions of innocent peasants by slow starvation and executed hundreds of thousands more innocents for politcal purposes without any care in the world. That what they were doing was wrong did not matter to them, because doing it served the supposed 'greater good of the people (or party, at least).'

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