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Name: Guy
Date: July 17, 2002 at 22:33:54 Pacific
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How the heck do you configure beos to work with a linksys router. I click enable dchp but it does not work. Is there anything I should fill in specifically for domain and host? Thanks for any help.



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Response Number 1
Name: jefro
Date: July 18, 2002 at 10:12:05 Pacific
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I need the model number.

You don't mean a router actually is my guess. You
might mean a cable modem or something like that. A
router can be set up to switch based on mac layer
through transport layer. What model do you have and
how is it connected to what you want to connect to
and what do you want to connect to?


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Response Number 2
Name: Guy
Date: July 18, 2002 at 14:17:04 Pacific
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Yes I mean a router. It is a Linksys BEFSR41 - EtherFast® Cable/DSL Router with 4-Port Switch. Now explain to me how I would go about getting this to work with BeOS. I have no clue why dhcp does not work.


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Response Number 3
Name: Luke McCarthy
Date: July 18, 2002 at 16:56:01 Pacific
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I have the same router.

DHCP won't work with BeOS. You will have to set up networking manually. Make sure you have your network card installed properley, and manually enter:

Gateway
Subnet mask
DNS servers
and anything else... (can't remember, I'm in XP at this moment)

The default gateway for this router is:
192.168.1.1

The default DNS server(s) are whatever your ISPs DNS servers are. Sorry I can't help you on this. You can find this information on the router page (see below).

The default subnet mask is:
255.255.255.0

Your local IP address can be found at the linksys router page, which you can get by entering 192.168.1.1 and 'admin' as your password (no username) into a web browser. If you can't do this, the first computer is normally: 192.168.1.2 or sometimes it might be 192.168.1.100.

You will probably need to boot into a different OS to find some of this info. DHCP will auto set up Linux or Windows.


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Response Number 4
Name: jefro
Date: July 18, 2002 at 19:25:21 Pacific
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Shame linksys and others are trying to sell something that is isn't. They are selling modems and relays and switches.
A router is actually a network layer device that uses one or more metrics to determine the optimal path along which network traffic should be forwarded. (NOT ON THE LINLSYS) Routers forward packets from one network to another based on network layer information.
(MAYBE TO SOME EXTENT)


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Response Number 5
Name: Cornstalk
Date: July 21, 2002 at 12:22:00 Pacific
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My home LAN is connected to through the same router. I have a recently
purchased copy of BeOS 5 Pro on one of the machines, and the network
configured automatically and correctly after I went preferences, settings,
"obtain settings automatically (DHCP)." I do not have 5.0.x yet, just the
basic 5 Pro.

With all due respect, I can't understand jefro's compaint about this device
not being a router. I think most people would define a router as a device
that handles address translation between connected subnets (for example,
between my LAN and the internet). That is exactly what the linksys does. In
any case, whatever this device should be called, it gives d--n good value.


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Response Number 6
Name: jefro
Date: July 21, 2002 at 13:34:35 Pacific
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You WANT to get the updates 1 and 3. Install the 1 and then the 3 to make a R5.03 install. Otherwise your beos IP stack is wide open to hacking. With a high speed modem someone is sure to peek and poke into your files or worse.

My complaint is that compainies are (for example) selling a Lexus and offering a Tonka. That is what makes me mad. A router must by it's name actually "route" something. What they are selling doesn't do more than a smart switch at best. To confuse the name would confuse young people who might go into a tech field and then find they don't know what the heck they are talking about. I just say be precise or close to that.

Mean ain't I? :)


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Response Number 7
Name: cornstalk
Date: July 22, 2002 at 05:40:19 Pacific
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Ooh, you are so mean.

But thanks, that's good advice. I was planning to get these updates from BeBits.

Security is important, which ties back to our discussion of this linksys device. Being a NAT router, or switch if you prefer that term, it supplies IP masquerading and so is a pretty good first line of defense. It has a built-in firewall that appears to do a good job of concealing itself from scans.

The redoubtable Steve Gibson (www.grc.com) recommends this device.



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Response Number 8
Name: jefro
Date: July 22, 2002 at 09:31:20 Pacific
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I agree, it is more of a NAT or smart NAT even. The firewall works if used by the owner. These devices are good, and have extra software that can benefit BeOS users. And by golly if Steve likes it, it ought to be OK! :) Hey, I don't see any beos apps yet there.


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Response Number 9
Name: Guy
Date: July 24, 2002 at 22:26:24 Pacific
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Well Luke I tryed your advice, but it didn't work. It must not be picking up my damn card right. Do I have to set a static route or anything? Thanks for the help anyway. I appreciate it.


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Response Number 10
Name: John Ackley
Date: September 2, 2002 at 12:54:45 Pacific
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I have the same linksys router, and if I allow beos to automatically get the
settings from the router, which I have set up with dhcp, then the hostname
usually has an extra . at the end of the .net, it appeared as .net. which
causes problems. Ping will work find but has trouble resolving a name to an
ip.

Also set up beos with an ip that I entered which for me would be
192.168.1.100 and dhcp and gateway set to 192.168.1.1 I have the router
set up with dhcp enables and address starting at 192.168.1.100

Take the extra . out of the hostname and it works fine.

Seems that when I try to install the experimental package of WON, the
entire thing goes down again.....


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